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我會好多謝佢咁早俾我認識佢.  俾我明白我喺呢個世界只係度過幾十年, 甚至更短嘅客旅生活.  俾我明白將來我會去邊度.  無論開心, 唔開心嘅事, 佢都陪伴我一齊經過.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
2 A5 m- i3 i. A0 I7 S# ?  ?bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?4 ]7 m' b& t3 E) _  t+ g& G
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case* R, l! V8 u3 W2 r' Q% @: h+ Z
why this happen? just simple........punishment
( d4 b; W3 ]0 T  V7 w# q$ cmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things - A( i, b6 a" i# x: v& {
but why jesus need to do this?/ i1 A% y6 K& m8 ]2 i
punsihment for what???8 j5 ^/ b  \& K& k" Y( r0 ~; F
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus& [3 v: G, W7 n1 z
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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8 `5 G0 q) v7 A6 n5 w( Cwhat will u do???, L! r5 l7 `1 P" z; |! P7 J8 Y
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:6 ~1 W& y/ Z" e) G" f
bro singgeihot and rest365days/ n/ v' a8 B0 F( @, }/ x0 L
honestly, if there is jesus
6 C2 i6 g8 g; che really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
5 t; U+ R. X6 |  c( ?( w" R& nwe can't blow him :cool:

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1 h  k* a  W8 W  n( B5 G9 f' a8 p1 @understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
* m. D! {' H$ i, r自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool:

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His purpose is for his own fun and entertainment??

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Are you sure that there was no innocent christian that had died from the Tsunami??

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* S1 @4 L0 o- s2 W6 ?$ K! |: {that's the point... you can think of 1,000,000 reasons (including punishment,  for fun and entertainment).. but so far no evidence... so i will keep saying that:  "i don't know", and infact i only care about the people, what we could do the help them.." Z5 ]4 u* S; M6 m& V7 j6 F  p4 j
stop here.

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:21 PM:7 i$ S: X( M; {* ?. l$ D
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For sure we'll never know his purpose. But this is something that he had done, or could have prevented if he does exist.

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如果佢唔存在, 你問緊mud? 問點解一個唔存在嘅神, 無按你嘅心意去行事?0 [' H  B  d& r5 l, a
如果佢存在, 點解你唔直接問佢呢?  

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:41 PM:9 d% x. h+ a6 X9 h0 F" t% S
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sing sing, from a christian's point of view, dying is a way to reach heaven faster, they like dying more than anyone does. no kidding.

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5 p: t/ f4 V) S  ^( c/ A7 ?4 P3 {oh really?  i don't think in this way wor... i have a lot of things to do, a lot of people to love.. to preach the gospel. 耶穌未返嚟, 唔好偷懶喎
( p- ]$ u: }9 U, Q' w0 G) }' E6 v+ v& Fpls don't over-generalize things.. and don't speak for others.

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:47 PM:3 t# ~: ?3 h+ n# I7 S& f' ]; y* h
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God arranged the Tsunami on purpo...

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what???? ...

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:57 PM:
! I  A0 f/ l4 `9 \  N如果佢真係唔存在, 我会心安理得...

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# y) ?1 S2 S( r5 r8 z( w& H停留喺自己嘅空想, or同其他人傾, 作用不大, 你都係自己鬧神一餐, 然後聽吓佢點講好D

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基督教的”排他性”之強, 可說是主流宗教之中數一數二的.  這是基督教信仰內容的一部分.  信徒在堅守”獨一”這個前提之下, 如何與其他信仰的人相處, 實在是一個值得思的課題.  如果處理不妥當, 往往令人反感, 長洲踩場事件就是個例子.  然而另一方面, ”獨一”又是一條不容妥協的底線, 所以每當討論觸及教義的時候, 衝突有時是難免的.
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- i2 T6 Q8 b1 a8 T4 ]我認為最重要是保持理性, 和互相尊重的態度.  反正我們不是比劍, 大家都交換意見就夠了.  不用互相批評對方.
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相信forum當中, 以至無數非基督徒都曾經被基督徒”激親”, 希望基督徒都能夠明白別人的感受, 而非基督徒亦理解對方的立場.  大家講完就算.