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我會好多謝佢咁早俾我認識佢.  俾我明白我喺呢個世界只係度過幾十年, 甚至更短嘅客旅生活.  俾我明白將來我會去邊度.  無論開心, 唔開心嘅事, 佢都陪伴我一齊經過.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
) \$ @0 L/ j1 K; w8 Rbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?/ x2 j5 }: i% W7 T- B
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case3 x  }3 I) c. m  D8 L& h/ Q
why this happen? just simple........punishment- |, k5 Z- J1 R1 N6 W
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things - D$ ?, I9 z1 W/ ]- R7 k/ V
but why jesus need to do this?
3 h$ L$ R' M& fpunsihment for what???6 f  I  B, ]0 R1 F4 J
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
5 Z+ l6 D3 U6 o( V! w6 Dtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
6 X, o8 {9 |# ]0 [6 I% Fbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u % g7 b, t9 N, d7 i9 @
what will u do???  |0 ?7 s' G/ f& {; t
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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' R7 c0 ]4 l0 M9 ]5 Wsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:" ~# U& {& s7 J% A, [- }
bro singgeihot and rest365days8 I) L! T- p- V' y" \  N
honestly, if there is jesus
# Q2 q. v% T: Khe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus! f9 K9 Y, R5 n
we can't blow him :cool:

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) H6 E* e# e. @. G. H  a$ ~4 Hunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:; X+ g0 ~* o" x3 l' {
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool:

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His purpose is for his own fun and entertainment??

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Are you sure that there was no innocent christian that had died from the Tsunami??

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! g0 F( r8 R' k0 Q9 B: `that's the point... you can think of 1,000,000 reasons (including punishment,  for fun and entertainment).. but so far no evidence... so i will keep saying that:  "i don't know", and infact i only care about the people, what we could do the help them..$ L! N/ M" Y/ o& D
stop here.

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:21 PM:
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' y" A% X, ~' L4 `2 \* PFor sure we'll never know his purpose. But this is something that he had done, or could have prevented if he does exist.

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% v% }2 ~1 n; J9 @' ~- L, n如果佢唔存在, 你問緊mud? 問點解一個唔存在嘅神, 無按你嘅心意去行事?
5 T) ]7 K3 @& O. s5 R如果佢存在, 點解你唔直接問佢呢?  

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:41 PM:& t6 x" q& d( a0 c* G

7 X$ m9 v  v- \9 O" z: rsing sing, from a christian's point of view, dying is a way to reach heaven faster, they like dying more than anyone does. no kidding.

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oh really?  i don't think in this way wor... i have a lot of things to do, a lot of people to love.. to preach the gospel. 耶穌未返嚟, 唔好偷懶喎
2 r0 v5 u" y, l* R. C# spls don't over-generalize things.. and don't speak for others.

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:47 PM:
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5 V; k# ~/ H- E/ X: FGod arranged the Tsunami on purpo...

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what???? ...

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:57 PM:
; a6 _: T4 n4 ?' k! O如果佢真係唔存在, 我会心安理得...

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停留喺自己嘅空想, or同其他人傾, 作用不大, 你都係自己鬧神一餐, 然後聽吓佢點講好D

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基督教的”排他性”之強, 可說是主流宗教之中數一數二的.  這是基督教信仰內容的一部分.  信徒在堅守”獨一”這個前提之下, 如何與其他信仰的人相處, 實在是一個值得思的課題.  如果處理不妥當, 往往令人反感, 長洲踩場事件就是個例子.  然而另一方面, ”獨一”又是一條不容妥協的底線, 所以每當討論觸及教義的時候, 衝突有時是難免的.
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5 P& T9 P; F& ]( F0 y/ M我認為最重要是保持理性, 和互相尊重的態度.  反正我們不是比劍, 大家都交換意見就夠了.  不用互相批評對方.; Z0 R; |+ S3 ]# P3 w) z: `3 E
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相信forum當中, 以至無數非基督徒都曾經被基督徒”激親”, 希望基督徒都能夠明白別人的感受, 而非基督徒亦理解對方的立場.  大家講完就算.