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我會好多謝佢咁早俾我認識佢.  俾我明白我喺呢個世界只係度過幾十年, 甚至更短嘅客旅生活.  俾我明白將來我會去邊度.  無論開心, 唔開心嘅事, 佢都陪伴我一齊經過.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
& K2 W1 g  S6 K: ]3 p# @2 Zbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
$ i6 D# q2 ?# j4 c( }comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case/ }& {, M# d: F: Y
why this happen? just simple........punishment
# ]  v. z( l5 l% G6 Bmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
1 P  d3 Q8 ^& g" b1 gbut why jesus need to do this?
1 Y* m. q2 o- @/ K% P, K( ipunsihment for what???
  I- S: w8 K' i$ N, {6 x; Efor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus+ n2 l% m; S# |- t: m' K& \" b
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
0 e( l, N( K" U# v- Zbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
; ~) U7 |, Y0 s0 m) t, F5 p8 uwhat will u do???6 K$ W+ l5 _4 A& R" s# E
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,   S( @* b" J' Z7 `9 M+ o; K+ n! v4 X

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- q' ~; F  {8 x" e& @; b+ b$ I1 Fsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:+ x0 }" p$ Z; P7 k. Q
bro singgeihot and rest365days0 N# P  b9 f! ?; t; X+ l# C, N/ N8 q
honestly, if there is jesus
1 m4 O& a4 U3 Y$ k9 F3 mhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus) d0 q' y* p" M
we can't blow him :cool:

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0 G! q2 B( k3 `6 R  t; \, Wunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:9 ]! i: U! V* c" z( \3 b* Y
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool:

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His purpose is for his own fun and entertainment??

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Are you sure that there was no innocent christian that had died from the Tsunami??

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' J/ ]+ a% p: ~- \that's the point... you can think of 1,000,000 reasons (including punishment,  for fun and entertainment).. but so far no evidence... so i will keep saying that:  "i don't know", and infact i only care about the people, what we could do the help them..
( Q9 c- L0 }: Y, G# \" w( E2 Estop here.

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:21 PM:' p" t) r% \* J0 c  u4 W
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! ~9 `8 Z4 o" mFor sure we'll never know his purpose. But this is something that he had done, or could have prevented if he does exist.

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) ^$ A: y9 @) R2 l9 l2 Z9 t: N' Q如果佢唔存在, 你問緊mud? 問點解一個唔存在嘅神, 無按你嘅心意去行事?
9 ?( ]# M" d& C2 b0 I2 x  V5 V2 y如果佢存在, 點解你唔直接問佢呢?  

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:41 PM:  M) y5 |8 X$ S% k
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sing sing, from a christian's point of view, dying is a way to reach heaven faster, they like dying more than anyone does. no kidding.

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oh really?  i don't think in this way wor... i have a lot of things to do, a lot of people to love.. to preach the gospel. 耶穌未返嚟, 唔好偷懶喎
* X/ l1 {7 ^' o# T  Q! ]pls don't over-generalize things.. and don't speak for others.

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:47 PM:
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God arranged the Tsunami on purpo...

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:57 PM:
" X1 t+ t; j4 t如果佢真係唔存在, 我会心安理得...

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停留喺自己嘅空想, or同其他人傾, 作用不大, 你都係自己鬧神一餐, 然後聽吓佢點講好D

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基督教的”排他性”之強, 可說是主流宗教之中數一數二的.  這是基督教信仰內容的一部分.  信徒在堅守”獨一”這個前提之下, 如何與其他信仰的人相處, 實在是一個值得思的課題.  如果處理不妥當, 往往令人反感, 長洲踩場事件就是個例子.  然而另一方面, ”獨一”又是一條不容妥協的底線, 所以每當討論觸及教義的時候, 衝突有時是難免的.$ r+ ?3 H+ I4 a" E7 e/ N3 P5 c+ ^

; X3 l- x% v6 Z我認為最重要是保持理性, 和互相尊重的態度.  反正我們不是比劍, 大家都交換意見就夠了.  不用互相批評對方.
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相信forum當中, 以至無數非基督徒都曾經被基督徒”激親”, 希望基督徒都能夠明白別人的感受, 而非基督徒亦理解對方的立場.  大家講完就算.