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我會好多謝佢咁早俾我認識佢.  俾我明白我喺呢個世界只係度過幾十年, 甚至更短嘅客旅生活.  俾我明白將來我會去邊度.  無論開心, 唔開心嘅事, 佢都陪伴我一齊經過.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:& U5 D: ~0 J$ `$ y, p; ~% q5 X
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?: l. z' `* q- p( o: H8 z3 r  W$ c
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case) O( d2 S$ R# w6 M# A
why this happen? just simple........punishment
! ~: u; [! b, x' Z/ {% Vmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things $ Y7 C9 _# h/ l+ N! j! |8 R1 P) j! m4 ^
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus, m; ~) Y# @. j/ y8 D' g
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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what will u do???( x- {- U; ?, s
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:1 `% N) G1 s3 @6 C* r
bro singgeihot and rest365days, D& ^; R3 {8 w" ^" L2 X
honestly, if there is jesus" i* C( D0 q! E" r
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus' j; l- o- t: @0 g
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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) f5 D) z5 _3 k/ f, J: y! E5 Ohaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool:

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His purpose is for his own fun and entertainment??

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Are you sure that there was no innocent christian that had died from the Tsunami??

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that's the point... you can think of 1,000,000 reasons (including punishment,  for fun and entertainment).. but so far no evidence... so i will keep saying that:  "i don't know", and infact i only care about the people, what we could do the help them..
# {  a9 Q+ U0 ]' J9 J5 T- r0 f8 Z3 `! tstop here.

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:21 PM:0 S& G$ K2 I6 ]/ M

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7 x7 d$ x4 L9 C% p1 u& v0 }$ `9 G+ r7 dFor sure we'll never know his purpose. But this is something that he had done, or could have prevented if he does exist.

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如果佢唔存在, 你問緊mud? 問點解一個唔存在嘅神, 無按你嘅心意去行事?7 M; U# c; E+ d) i) k
如果佢存在, 點解你唔直接問佢呢?  

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:41 PM:
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0 j) U7 N9 z) M7 x- |8 I1 dsing sing, from a christian's point of view, dying is a way to reach heaven faster, they like dying more than anyone does. no kidding.

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4 b: B# V, h4 Zoh really?  i don't think in this way wor... i have a lot of things to do, a lot of people to love.. to preach the gospel. 耶穌未返嚟, 唔好偷懶喎; F& K+ d8 `, X4 }
pls don't over-generalize things.. and don't speak for others.

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:47 PM:
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/ B9 w8 r& B6 _# y& ?7 `: z3 ]! MGod arranged the Tsunami on purpo...

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what???? ...

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:57 PM:
" u8 n) X! D7 y) s' L8 p* M如果佢真係唔存在, 我会心安理得...

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停留喺自己嘅空想, or同其他人傾, 作用不大, 你都係自己鬧神一餐, 然後聽吓佢點講好D

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基督教的”排他性”之強, 可說是主流宗教之中數一數二的.  這是基督教信仰內容的一部分.  信徒在堅守”獨一”這個前提之下, 如何與其他信仰的人相處, 實在是一個值得思的課題.  如果處理不妥當, 往往令人反感, 長洲踩場事件就是個例子.  然而另一方面, ”獨一”又是一條不容妥協的底線, 所以每當討論觸及教義的時候, 衝突有時是難免的.( a3 h0 i9 j" n5 P

  W! H# R: v; _我認為最重要是保持理性, 和互相尊重的態度.  反正我們不是比劍, 大家都交換意見就夠了.  不用互相批評對方.. x$ l4 o/ K0 u: J* n8 w

# T2 P3 p: ^2 b相信forum當中, 以至無數非基督徒都曾經被基督徒”激親”, 希望基督徒都能夠明白別人的感受, 而非基督徒亦理解對方的立場.  大家講完就算.