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我會好多謝佢咁早俾我認識佢.  俾我明白我喺呢個世界只係度過幾十年, 甚至更短嘅客旅生活.  俾我明白將來我會去邊度.  無論開心, 唔開心嘅事, 佢都陪伴我一齊經過.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
# ~/ x& c0 X5 L# K4 Z' J$ Ebro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?( m  T' g, I, a( Q4 M4 t  K
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case! G. E+ a/ ], B7 r7 C
why this happen? just simple........punishment
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but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus( _+ `. f- |# Q
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers8 n& p# g- M( z, j
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ! u/ ~+ r2 Y1 n
what will u do???) k2 B+ W: c" P; D
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 5 _! Z- m) y% @- C2 h

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:' F. w& ?6 d+ U% [
bro singgeihot and rest365days
0 \/ R" e; {  e4 Fhonestly, if there is jesus
+ z) ]1 _# n7 z' p8 I: {8 D$ R1 Lhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus8 {& q# _3 Z$ z( L
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
, a2 m, R) d! F  }4 g" y$ I$ F自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool:

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His purpose is for his own fun and entertainment??

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Are you sure that there was no innocent christian that had died from the Tsunami??

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that's the point... you can think of 1,000,000 reasons (including punishment,  for fun and entertainment).. but so far no evidence... so i will keep saying that:  "i don't know", and infact i only care about the people, what we could do the help them..1 y0 {# f8 g0 B* w9 E/ \
stop here.

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:21 PM:
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For sure we'll never know his purpose. But this is something that he had done, or could have prevented if he does exist.

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- M0 Q* n/ i; i; S5 T( c6 C如果佢唔存在, 你問緊mud? 問點解一個唔存在嘅神, 無按你嘅心意去行事?
4 p, `/ b, p9 E0 m, L. j3 X# n$ h如果佢存在, 點解你唔直接問佢呢?  

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:41 PM:$ g- g7 c/ S4 g3 o; @' Q+ R( V# e; S
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sing sing, from a christian's point of view, dying is a way to reach heaven faster, they like dying more than anyone does. no kidding.

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oh really?  i don't think in this way wor... i have a lot of things to do, a lot of people to love.. to preach the gospel. 耶穌未返嚟, 唔好偷懶喎
( W: A: H  N) Y$ {. V' Tpls don't over-generalize things.. and don't speak for others.

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:47 PM:
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  x+ p3 }, C# G0 X6 |- kwhat???? ...

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:57 PM:& v+ w2 h% {0 |6 g% @: B+ ?& W0 M
如果佢真係唔存在, 我会心安理得...

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! G: U: e" `% @, R8 N5 |; [停留喺自己嘅空想, or同其他人傾, 作用不大, 你都係自己鬧神一餐, 然後聽吓佢點講好D

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基督教的”排他性”之強, 可說是主流宗教之中數一數二的.  這是基督教信仰內容的一部分.  信徒在堅守”獨一”這個前提之下, 如何與其他信仰的人相處, 實在是一個值得思的課題.  如果處理不妥當, 往往令人反感, 長洲踩場事件就是個例子.  然而另一方面, ”獨一”又是一條不容妥協的底線, 所以每當討論觸及教義的時候, 衝突有時是難免的./ P/ u9 ?2 `2 ~6 S

6 ]+ B4 ]+ m" q, \& Y" Y我認為最重要是保持理性, 和互相尊重的態度.  反正我們不是比劍, 大家都交換意見就夠了.  不用互相批評對方.
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相信forum當中, 以至無數非基督徒都曾經被基督徒”激親”, 希望基督徒都能夠明白別人的感受, 而非基督徒亦理解對方的立場.  大家講完就算.