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我會好多謝佢咁早俾我認識佢.  俾我明白我喺呢個世界只係度過幾十年, 甚至更短嘅客旅生活.  俾我明白將來我會去邊度.  無論開心, 唔開心嘅事, 佢都陪伴我一齊經過.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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+ }( w8 d9 g* p8 lcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case$ T4 Z8 |  T( I! C1 t* N0 {' j" O; A
why this happen? just simple........punishment. m; `' o; H7 g; i8 n& T  f- s
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
/ }1 q4 K3 ~& W' b8 vbut why jesus need to do this?4 v9 I! I/ [8 h3 h8 v$ g
punsihment for what???
5 W4 C1 [- G' F1 [% t5 t6 }! l2 bfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus; u! R7 L5 z; y
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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6 L% R$ U. x9 Iwhat will u do???
# S4 w' h3 D; C6 Z& G' Qjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, + E9 ], l2 l1 D

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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honestly, if there is jesus% E, S, g+ h) b$ a# h6 ~1 E, z. u
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus3 |) E& O' C. s7 J9 `/ O0 m
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:9 ~8 C& ^. r- l/ r, `$ e* Y7 c1 {
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool:

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His purpose is for his own fun and entertainment??

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Are you sure that there was no innocent christian that had died from the Tsunami??

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that's the point... you can think of 1,000,000 reasons (including punishment,  for fun and entertainment).. but so far no evidence... so i will keep saying that:  "i don't know", and infact i only care about the people, what we could do the help them..3 r. I) R( }: x2 o2 M+ d* q
stop here.

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:21 PM:
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7 C* ^! O/ N, @% hFor sure we'll never know his purpose. But this is something that he had done, or could have prevented if he does exist.

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如果佢唔存在, 你問緊mud? 問點解一個唔存在嘅神, 無按你嘅心意去行事?7 Q' X4 f# j; _$ M' [
如果佢存在, 點解你唔直接問佢呢?  

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:41 PM:
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sing sing, from a christian's point of view, dying is a way to reach heaven faster, they like dying more than anyone does. no kidding.

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/ u7 ?$ H6 l7 o2 V: J1 Xoh really?  i don't think in this way wor... i have a lot of things to do, a lot of people to love.. to preach the gospel. 耶穌未返嚟, 唔好偷懶喎! d, X8 K( F  C8 |- j* O
pls don't over-generalize things.. and don't speak for others.

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:47 PM:
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God arranged the Tsunami on purpo...

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:57 PM:: }$ [/ g* s9 K/ l
如果佢真係唔存在, 我会心安理得...

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7 O. P8 \) ?5 c6 y8 p9 o- @停留喺自己嘅空想, or同其他人傾, 作用不大, 你都係自己鬧神一餐, 然後聽吓佢點講好D

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基督教的”排他性”之強, 可說是主流宗教之中數一數二的.  這是基督教信仰內容的一部分.  信徒在堅守”獨一”這個前提之下, 如何與其他信仰的人相處, 實在是一個值得思的課題.  如果處理不妥當, 往往令人反感, 長洲踩場事件就是個例子.  然而另一方面, ”獨一”又是一條不容妥協的底線, 所以每當討論觸及教義的時候, 衝突有時是難免的.+ b# w* L* T) G1 ?1 t" n) e

9 A1 ]+ K3 Y# b) G我認為最重要是保持理性, 和互相尊重的態度.  反正我們不是比劍, 大家都交換意見就夠了.  不用互相批評對方.3 a, ?% N5 E6 F. i
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相信forum當中, 以至無數非基督徒都曾經被基督徒”激親”, 希望基督徒都能夠明白別人的感受, 而非基督徒亦理解對方的立場.  大家講完就算.