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我會好多謝佢咁早俾我認識佢.  俾我明白我喺呢個世界只係度過幾十年, 甚至更短嘅客旅生活.  俾我明白將來我會去邊度.  無論開心, 唔開心嘅事, 佢都陪伴我一齊經過.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
: b5 ]; y# t) p( c: p3 B( h" Obro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?5 \: L3 U0 R$ D* Y
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
0 X* }$ b3 m. W# ^why this happen? just simple........punishment4 O7 Z5 N3 K; M  U. D' Z4 @) j
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
$ o* |' p' j& U/ a; ~* j/ J6 k8 nbut why jesus need to do this?
, h' Z0 X" X# ^. mpunsihment for what???! {6 r" _  o  e2 e* [4 ^0 \7 h# N# r, @# u
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
# B. U3 }, Z# p' gtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers/ A. @" f# F. j9 A9 r" {$ A
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
# w, Q9 K3 b7 D; ^0 }8 iwhat will u do???
) `4 x. j( G9 d/ G  O) hjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:- @5 {) M. i/ n" b
bro singgeihot and rest365days6 U) S& y5 Z* m$ W* C
honestly, if there is jesus4 C/ x& e+ B0 q6 x0 M3 J4 @$ [6 O
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus9 B& j' G' `$ q
we can't blow him :cool:

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+ ~8 g9 k9 |6 V- ~understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
4 `8 z- N. b8 y5 P自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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- o' I) {' t4 q" v' khaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool:

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His purpose is for his own fun and entertainment??

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Are you sure that there was no innocent christian that had died from the Tsunami??

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that's the point... you can think of 1,000,000 reasons (including punishment,  for fun and entertainment).. but so far no evidence... so i will keep saying that:  "i don't know", and infact i only care about the people, what we could do the help them..
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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:21 PM:$ h/ K; I( G" h, G: l
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4 s& }$ x6 t6 V3 [' g9 L9 O# c9 LFor sure we'll never know his purpose. But this is something that he had done, or could have prevented if he does exist.

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2 C8 C# N) \# Z) w" X( w1 z' W. d如果佢唔存在, 你問緊mud? 問點解一個唔存在嘅神, 無按你嘅心意去行事?
; v. E" o1 E: @如果佢存在, 點解你唔直接問佢呢?  

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:41 PM:- n! l, w6 Q; a3 O. i9 c; v
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sing sing, from a christian's point of view, dying is a way to reach heaven faster, they like dying more than anyone does. no kidding.

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% h, F, p$ z1 U* X  Goh really?  i don't think in this way wor... i have a lot of things to do, a lot of people to love.. to preach the gospel. 耶穌未返嚟, 唔好偷懶喎
9 }  V' z& e4 C6 g' tpls don't over-generalize things.. and don't speak for others.

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:47 PM:
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God arranged the Tsunami on purpo...

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:57 PM:
7 C' a9 k$ L" c: |# {如果佢真係唔存在, 我会心安理得...

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) g% l) m7 p* m- y3 X0 V停留喺自己嘅空想, or同其他人傾, 作用不大, 你都係自己鬧神一餐, 然後聽吓佢點講好D

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基督教的”排他性”之強, 可說是主流宗教之中數一數二的.  這是基督教信仰內容的一部分.  信徒在堅守”獨一”這個前提之下, 如何與其他信仰的人相處, 實在是一個值得思的課題.  如果處理不妥當, 往往令人反感, 長洲踩場事件就是個例子.  然而另一方面, ”獨一”又是一條不容妥協的底線, 所以每當討論觸及教義的時候, 衝突有時是難免的.
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我認為最重要是保持理性, 和互相尊重的態度.  反正我們不是比劍, 大家都交換意見就夠了.  不用互相批評對方.$ z, o$ h& N) r2 J6 y+ u& |- T, L2 M1 a

- C7 a! a! b: d' X' c  l相信forum當中, 以至無數非基督徒都曾經被基督徒”激親”, 希望基督徒都能夠明白別人的感受, 而非基督徒亦理解對方的立場.  大家講完就算.