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我會好多謝佢咁早俾我認識佢.  俾我明白我喺呢個世界只係度過幾十年, 甚至更短嘅客旅生活.  俾我明白將來我會去邊度.  無論開心, 唔開心嘅事, 佢都陪伴我一齊經過.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
. z$ v( R& R' Gbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
- F3 ?4 C+ d) y' }: x9 b2 c! ?comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
8 B2 I6 ^& y% V9 Q. f  Z8 h: I' owhy this happen? just simple........punishment
! ]2 S: N2 z( O0 I3 }/ Smany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
; i! c2 q3 E6 u8 d) b8 [8 \but why jesus need to do this?( K5 \( i+ S2 A0 q- E
punsihment for what???# k3 z+ i  `7 o/ B2 E6 q/ f  Y
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus3 c: H; U. Z) q2 a3 s" S, ?' R
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers6 B9 e: ?& z% W( G2 b
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u . @7 B. S. ?7 l  I# a  b
what will u do???" T: q6 i, v: Y( P' F: ~
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 5 X$ o6 W4 v8 ?( G1 S# k& H

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
  c) p0 i6 K: `3 [bro singgeihot and rest365days1 h1 x( k$ E0 o1 ~: H
honestly, if there is jesus/ n, @* R6 c6 I0 g" ], F
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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% }  Q0 V9 k/ L* U: N3 ]' m3 gunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:' o" z8 g. z; \1 i. N7 K5 m. n: R
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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+ d8 f! h$ O8 j/ h* Vhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool:

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His purpose is for his own fun and entertainment??

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Are you sure that there was no innocent christian that had died from the Tsunami??

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that's the point... you can think of 1,000,000 reasons (including punishment,  for fun and entertainment).. but so far no evidence... so i will keep saying that:  "i don't know", and infact i only care about the people, what we could do the help them..
% I  a7 `1 s- _( x% jstop here.

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:21 PM:+ Y6 T9 f5 r% C" N/ f( N9 n

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For sure we'll never know his purpose. But this is something that he had done, or could have prevented if he does exist.

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& i; z0 B( H1 N; q# @# b! z如果佢唔存在, 你問緊mud? 問點解一個唔存在嘅神, 無按你嘅心意去行事?
; Y0 C; K6 D1 @; g0 o如果佢存在, 點解你唔直接問佢呢?  

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:41 PM:( @) y2 O, _( `5 J6 T( p
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sing sing, from a christian's point of view, dying is a way to reach heaven faster, they like dying more than anyone does. no kidding.

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+ u: B, o: y) Q. g$ yoh really?  i don't think in this way wor... i have a lot of things to do, a lot of people to love.. to preach the gospel. 耶穌未返嚟, 唔好偷懶喎$ p# h1 T* W% {
pls don't over-generalize things.. and don't speak for others.

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:47 PM:  h" Z8 @& v2 `" g# `7 f. q
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God arranged the Tsunami on purpo...

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:57 PM:
* ^1 L/ @8 ]2 o* Q6 F* E9 E0 c如果佢真係唔存在, 我会心安理得...

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停留喺自己嘅空想, or同其他人傾, 作用不大, 你都係自己鬧神一餐, 然後聽吓佢點講好D

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基督教的”排他性”之強, 可說是主流宗教之中數一數二的.  這是基督教信仰內容的一部分.  信徒在堅守”獨一”這個前提之下, 如何與其他信仰的人相處, 實在是一個值得思的課題.  如果處理不妥當, 往往令人反感, 長洲踩場事件就是個例子.  然而另一方面, ”獨一”又是一條不容妥協的底線, 所以每當討論觸及教義的時候, 衝突有時是難免的.
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我認為最重要是保持理性, 和互相尊重的態度.  反正我們不是比劍, 大家都交換意見就夠了.  不用互相批評對方.
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  R% t: C/ z8 p3 V相信forum當中, 以至無數非基督徒都曾經被基督徒”激親”, 希望基督徒都能夠明白別人的感受, 而非基督徒亦理解對方的立場.  大家講完就算.