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我會好多謝佢咁早俾我認識佢.  俾我明白我喺呢個世界只係度過幾十年, 甚至更短嘅客旅生活.  俾我明白將來我會去邊度.  無論開心, 唔開心嘅事, 佢都陪伴我一齊經過.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
9 {9 ?$ |( }9 L# h, Vbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?! Y  l, w& Z* U# F2 g
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case# D1 z. i$ o- L8 p* Z2 d7 R
why this happen? just simple........punishment1 o4 W! _3 W. e; E7 ?  }
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ( O) N* d& M, g1 B4 c+ k+ g; w
but why jesus need to do this?- I. q$ S- h0 Z# }
punsihment for what???5 g8 T7 X) ~# ?% Y0 ^
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
) M; |1 ^& ~1 u1 Ttry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
, F! ^: O0 X. \" D( [but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
1 V6 E9 @$ B; X% O; b: A* w, ywhat will u do???( K# v; x, ]* z0 f6 y
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, . K/ k$ I$ K- A0 J& C7 V. e

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

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Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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honestly, if there is jesus
( b$ T1 t) W( @6 U& h: ohe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
$ G1 U" p; |1 S, d9 Ywe can't blow him :cool:

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: Z- k3 M2 i, B' ]! ~8 Aunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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His purpose is for his own fun and entertainment??

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Are you sure that there was no innocent christian that had died from the Tsunami??

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that's the point... you can think of 1,000,000 reasons (including punishment,  for fun and entertainment).. but so far no evidence... so i will keep saying that:  "i don't know", and infact i only care about the people, what we could do the help them..
* u: |% o2 H* @# M" u$ Kstop here.

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:21 PM:4 _0 V: L( p; {) @$ Z7 I  ^

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For sure we'll never know his purpose. But this is something that he had done, or could have prevented if he does exist.

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. z% w8 \4 K- u# j4 f1 _如果佢唔存在, 你問緊mud? 問點解一個唔存在嘅神, 無按你嘅心意去行事?* m: h1 U4 {5 R
如果佢存在, 點解你唔直接問佢呢?  

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:41 PM:
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sing sing, from a christian's point of view, dying is a way to reach heaven faster, they like dying more than anyone does. no kidding.

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( \( A9 G: K9 B% S4 r' U" y, C; loh really?  i don't think in this way wor... i have a lot of things to do, a lot of people to love.. to preach the gospel. 耶穌未返嚟, 唔好偷懶喎
% Z% _& m& D* h3 ]" Rpls don't over-generalize things.. and don't speak for others.

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Originally posted by vivienna at 2005-6-4 12:47 PM:# A( O- U0 I& T1 d  @( w

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what???? ...

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Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:57 PM:& }, ]8 g6 R  v  E
如果佢真係唔存在, 我会心安理得...

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基督教的”排他性”之強, 可說是主流宗教之中數一數二的.  這是基督教信仰內容的一部分.  信徒在堅守”獨一”這個前提之下, 如何與其他信仰的人相處, 實在是一個值得思的課題.  如果處理不妥當, 往往令人反感, 長洲踩場事件就是個例子.  然而另一方面, ”獨一”又是一條不容妥協的底線, 所以每當討論觸及教義的時候, 衝突有時是難免的.3 z7 _: k3 x) U' \
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我認為最重要是保持理性, 和互相尊重的態度.  反正我們不是比劍, 大家都交換意見就夠了.  不用互相批評對方.! r# J' \1 _3 H5 |7 U

; L5 [' ]0 [, f8 H5 ]相信forum當中, 以至無數非基督徒都曾經被基督徒”激親”, 希望基督徒都能夠明白別人的感受, 而非基督徒亦理解對方的立場.  大家講完就算.