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司馬懿

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:24:& C$ }% l2 v9 @: \0 t; U9 Y. e
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姜維

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:25:( n/ ?* V  p" s

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4 c4 _5 n% x6 x% r智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:32:3 m+ e+ ^8 N) y. ^: }% b3 e. s) ?& O8 `. k
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5 ~+ ^- Z$ M+ Qbut i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司...

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, l0 Z! E$ h$ U7 j9 M+ Q9 yAgree.  But now is 諸葛亮死後最厲害既人物.  Thus all ability of the person should be consider.
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& c7 z) |8 |* w4 J2 m智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->$ V' l0 x2 P) }5 }. q: O( B6 n

6 {* N% t/ o/ q/ G0 Q- j* K$ R軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：司馬懿--->諸葛亮-->鄧艾--->陸遜--->姜維0 N4 {7 P+ B# v+ W7 A* Z9 n
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮
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Thus 姜維 is the best. If 司馬懿 is excluded.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:39:4 {$ y9 }2 o) M+ `9 S8 e
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第一五分，第五一分- u* r) J; Z4 L( }# x7 U

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姜維：2+1+1+5=9( J& y2 \: o$ q
陸遜：3+3+2+2=10

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9 u! k# E2 y$ q" V# E8 {軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維+ v/ d+ J  T: A2 z& s

0 ]( Z' l1 q" g  ?& U政治才能：司馬懿--->諸葛亮-->鄧艾--->陸遜--->姜維
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Thus 姜維 is the best.  You said no 司馬懿.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:' }1 H& ^+ l: h7 K. n# ?
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2 K. a- j! @- @why?
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3 O' I* T9 @1 P' ~: B其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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3 ]2 A0 _( m7 ^" Osee #22 Thus; e) ~$ |( A5 w! q
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維. C! r& v# Q7 G- U
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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6 q$ M3 x* |& f1 @% [打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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[ Last edited by 機密 on 2006-1-30 at 09:56 PM ]

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:" T. y( p# X% K. }2 e: p( v# ?

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

8 z* ?. A. ]# Y; b7 ?yes, that's the point.