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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:24:
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:25:
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. \0 N/ t$ l( ]" N1 A智慧高之餘﹐又打得
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:32:) L7 m" Q) K9 P! k

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but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司...

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Agree.  But now is 諸葛亮死後最厲害既人物.  Thus all ability of the person should be consider.
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維+ o8 _1 _2 q  Y

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:39:
4 W) B; ^* k/ b# }( yJust I think
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; x. S, `3 b# V7 O諸葛亮：5+5+4+1=15
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鄧艾：1+2+3+4=10
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9 u2 f! C6 l7 \  _陸遜：3+3+2+2=10

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮
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Thus 姜維 is the best.  You said no 司馬懿.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->' t" }9 Q5 r# {

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:) N/ m0 X5 i/ V9 N
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.