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司馬懿

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:24:8 U1 v/ |; h- p0 k  V
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唔計司馬懿呢？

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姜維

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:25:
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智慧高之餘﹐又打得
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:32:
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but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司...

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Agree.  But now is 諸葛亮死後最厲害既人物.  Thus all ability of the person should be consider.
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; z; K% N4 f& |! M1 `$ ]; m( j) ?7 z; ~智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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' C0 u- h8 J" E! I政治才能：司馬懿--->諸葛亮-->鄧艾--->陸遜--->姜維
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:39:% v1 b5 p+ q, |/ X+ s: w0 g! C
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第一五分，第五一分
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7 P! _4 h+ U+ k; u2 t諸葛亮：5+5+4+1=15$ x9 ?$ r% J( E# m
司馬懿：4+4+5+3=16% V! U/ \, ^* r$ x
鄧艾：1+2+3+4=10
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維' L2 Y! Z, O3 ^5 S( g1 [7 {

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮
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Thus 姜維 is the best.  You said no 司馬懿.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:: ?% g' Q  c* [8 j
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:0 V+ b, a" q: y+ {. G+ X% Z

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why?
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9 N  F6 `6 d' B/ P$ Q其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:% c0 h( \) S4 g$ }: j
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0 {, `7 }; _* {! Y+ AAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:- H( o( P7 v: e; f1 _
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9 S6 |0 j  ^8 k' p$ X; N他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.