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司馬懿

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:24:
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:25:- L* J2 c) {, N& v& V! t
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why?

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智慧高之餘﹐又打得
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:32:- O7 z9 u0 ^$ {+ v' m
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- `3 }( g$ F+ l8 nbut i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司...

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( u& D0 Y1 K% |+ ^. yAgree.  But now is 諸葛亮死後最厲害既人物.  Thus all ability of the person should be consider.2 z+ u% a) Z" f$ t

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Thus 姜維 is the best. If 司馬懿 is excluded.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:39:# _% j0 i' U) u: d' n
Just I think
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司馬懿：4+4+5+3=16
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姜維：2+1+1+5=9: \: l4 ~/ T3 q5 N2 Z
陸遜：3+3+2+2=10

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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政治才能：司馬懿--->諸葛亮-->鄧艾--->陸遜--->姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮2 s! k7 k* i$ Q( ^" W
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Thus 姜維 is the best.  You said no 司馬懿.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:0 h* R9 w3 q, c
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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0 G! T+ `3 G; q* ]+ OBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.2 D* \) y8 _5 D5 g
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:1 K, H6 e% T9 m

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:( A+ Z1 ^3 ~) e* }

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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