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司馬懿

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:24:
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5 e9 U* B  w3 a2 {唔計司馬懿呢？

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姜維

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:25:
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why?

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:32:
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- l6 m' X) U* Q2 |$ g6 pbut i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司...

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Agree.  But now is 諸葛亮死後最厲害既人物.  Thus all ability of the person should be consider.
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維* {& m& o# Z5 u% Y

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Thus 姜維 is the best. If 司馬懿 is excluded.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:39:
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諸葛亮：5+5+4+1=15
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陸遜：3+3+2+2=10

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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Thus 姜維 is the best.  You said no 司馬懿.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:( j( K$ K) H( j% b
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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# v& F  X3 x% k7 b, y$ @8 e+ lBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.0 h; F! L$ T7 J% V; w" O  J
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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8 {* I5 T4 E2 ^: L其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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8 R& b0 M. s4 X  B0 b打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.4 v' @- I9 E. p

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:( u9 c$ X2 d1 z  K  l! M: F
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他比孔明更偉大

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  k" ~8 O8 }( F# @. o% \Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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/ u& C) P. R/ u' i" q8 V& ?0 w  D4 J他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

  W0 `" Q" f5 z' t& v' v6 K% }* i# ]yes, that's the point.