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Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-30 13:22:% l4 g, @" t7 G' \3 k5 v: R3 H
姜維真係咁勁?  J, E0 x; L" G# x; a( Y: r8 z
佢輸俾鄧艾鍾會幾次ga bo...........

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實力差不多

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Originally posted by hung414 at 2006-1-30 21:08:
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( ~9 ?# d6 m3 m4 z, byes...he was the great one to unified Chinese

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但孔明剛死時他才１３歲，怎能跟其他人比？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:22:
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6 f( Q5 p8 j8 J7 g. b: ?- Z2 f唔計司馬懿呢？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:25:9 W# y9 C" s+ m

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why?

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:28:
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智慧高之餘﹐又打得' b0 L- z! {$ h. X" V6 i
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維

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but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->- b. l" D. s0 L0 R

# B! U0 k& ^) E+ O- H: _軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->鄧艾--->姜維
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8 h( H# t( u2 K5 D* |  R打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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第一五分，第五一分! u3 g' x7 _3 o6 M' h/ Y, q) F& |: O

0 [2 ?. l* e& x0 U  `) P諸葛亮：5+5+4+1=15
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:' v, a! @, G8 I7 }
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" d; L, Z! a0 ^% gBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
6 d6 G6 _* {1 u9 _, z& ^* A) HIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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7 x5 Q9 n: h1 K7 ^他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機