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Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-30 13:22:
( Q3 `' |; S5 A, j8 ]姜維真係咁勁?
" V* U" u- D* I" K) b9 F0 _; j& K佢輸俾鄧艾鍾會幾次ga bo...........

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* A+ R8 t9 a  a: A3 X* ?實力差不多

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Originally posted by hung414 at 2006-1-30 21:08:, |# q) C$ Y: R' d) v0 [3 Q4 h

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yes...he was the great one to unified Chinese

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但孔明剛死時他才１３歲，怎能跟其他人比？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:22:
; Z% o+ T9 J' P- J* q7 d  O司馬懿

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唔計司馬懿呢？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:25:
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why?

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:28:
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智慧高之餘﹐又打得
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7 G1 O" ], o+ p智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維

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but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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5 o8 J. r$ C  H: V6 h$ g軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->鄧艾--->姜維
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9 V( ^* M) ^) @. T9 S8 u政治才能：司馬懿--->諸葛亮-->鄧艾--->陸遜--->姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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Just I think( E  d8 M4 W3 U5 d8 V; e; J
第一五分，第五一分
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鄧艾：1+2+3+4=10
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陸遜：3+3+2+2=10

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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, Q5 S' _6 m' ?! M8 J+ d* U( iBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
' D9 a% g3 }5 U( lIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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- I  |  o4 W9 q$ s& S5 e他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:8 F; S4 u  n) u/ L* W  H& b2 A

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: l# U) a& S- Q" cAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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