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Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-30 13:22:% a: X: E7 @5 w% x
姜維真係咁勁?
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Originally posted by hung414 at 2006-1-30 21:08:
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5 ^/ B" G' C, uyes...he was the great one to unified Chinese

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但孔明剛死時他才１３歲，怎能跟其他人比？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:22:7 _% a! b: i  a: s, M6 _' Y
司馬懿

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:25:
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姜維

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why?

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:28:' \2 u3 a) s: g
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$ |  j$ ^3 S, F: A智慧高之餘﹐又打得
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7 z$ s% x+ g" j' G智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維

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but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->0 I( j- R# \. K, @

% N% z3 }2 j) e2 \8 t/ I" z軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->鄧艾--->姜維
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政治才能：司馬懿--->諸葛亮-->鄧艾--->陸遜--->姜維
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  m7 {+ t8 E3 B打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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Just I think
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( f# G) G* C2 a諸葛亮：5+5+4+1=15
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鄧艾：1+2+3+4=10
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:9 k) t+ e: I+ G; p% J: g0 v

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:& E+ {1 l9 n7 c6 I# _  [
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:4 {/ C, R8 L  t) v1 c# ?9 l- j
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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