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Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-30 13:22:
. }. @2 c5 ?2 @姜維真係咁勁?
/ E; m1 Q- J" E$ z佢輸俾鄧艾鍾會幾次ga bo...........

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Originally posted by hung414 at 2006-1-30 21:08:
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yes...he was the great one to unified Chinese

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但孔明剛死時他才１３歲，怎能跟其他人比？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:22:4 x/ n( U3 g% n
司馬懿

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1 H+ h% L3 P- G8 o唔計司馬懿呢？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:25:
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why?

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:28:( W& w1 [0 e, n6 j5 Z) ^7 |! ]0 e
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維

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but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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& \/ e( R9 `; S8 p政治才能：司馬懿--->諸葛亮-->鄧艾--->陸遜--->姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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Just I think
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, c/ s: j$ H- G0 D% B4 ^5 x諸葛亮：5+5+4+1=15" ~6 Z, o  E) [. Q0 i2 a  u
司馬懿：4+4+5+3=166 I$ U8 K8 x6 }! g4 P" w
鄧艾：1+2+3+4=10
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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% X0 ~3 B# o. {智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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0 m3 r: K- V2 M& kBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:4 y! v  e/ J- Y- y. g* a' q
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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+ s+ g. d& A% Y1 p5 SAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機