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Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-30 13:22:0 C) x3 M$ ~. D
姜維真係咁勁?
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實力差不多

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Originally posted by hung414 at 2006-1-30 21:08:; `) U: h$ c* |" G' B
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1 B/ D% m! ]( ^# a: Q' i3 ]但孔明剛死時他才１３歲，怎能跟其他人比？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:22:
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唔計司馬懿呢？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:25:+ Y( w3 b* ~' `3 y

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:28:
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% U+ m# a$ e/ p" a( i0 Q& h- R智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維

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( p" G9 H) F" k# ybut i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->/ ~! ?# B( X# t% W" I3 ]
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->鄧艾--->姜維
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政治才能：司馬懿--->諸葛亮-->鄧艾--->陸遜--->姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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Just I think
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司馬懿：4+4+5+3=16. r/ x( L+ e  V
鄧艾：1+2+3+4=109 v6 J/ }3 d- w9 [- f
姜維：2+1+1+5=9" J( Q6 U# O; h, W
陸遜：3+3+2+2=10

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:; e, C. Y3 x% j8 x2 w

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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' s7 |6 S# Y& j# K7 c- Q# M; tBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
2 }. h; p( k% e" p7 ZIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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. u4 W! w2 x8 e" A7 \他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機