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Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-30 13:22:; F1 W( A6 P; ~1 y/ N
姜維真係咁勁?! W) D( H+ ^; c, Y- z' y/ L, h$ |
佢輸俾鄧艾鍾會幾次ga bo...........

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實力差不多

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Originally posted by hung414 at 2006-1-30 21:08:/ t% w. @1 X, U# c, X4 o

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7 J* J3 ], |: E( Cyes...he was the great one to unified Chinese

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但孔明剛死時他才１３歲，怎能跟其他人比？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:22:
9 A( [, z& z+ D# z+ b# P司馬懿

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唔計司馬懿呢？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:25:5 z+ }4 k& z. O. y2 m
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姜維

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why?

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:28:! ~" K  w* s& s: q! ~

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智慧高之餘﹐又打得/ S- D- |" T0 {+ E- o+ g% K+ G6 g9 {6 q
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維

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  ^2 _# o' A7 k% j  r; Bbut i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->: C2 n& j; v; j: r3 }* Z

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政治才能：司馬懿--->諸葛亮-->鄧艾--->陸遜--->姜維; W& C: T0 }: ~  G" a

5 Q9 u( e  ]2 f4 e7 a6 G. V打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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Just I think
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司馬懿：4+4+5+3=16
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姜維：2+1+1+5=9
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:* x$ S0 T& \+ G

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:* h. q* }3 x) y) e* g6 u' n* C
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:8 G! L) A' m( D8 u6 n" H+ U$ `
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:. M2 t0 I7 j& ^/ B
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機