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Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-30 13:22:! {( Q3 F3 X  T  ~2 d& ]
姜維真係咁勁?% f, ^5 y, A1 D2 u) p
佢輸俾鄧艾鍾會幾次ga bo...........

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Originally posted by hung414 at 2006-1-30 21:08:
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yes...he was the great one to unified Chinese

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6 H' X4 F/ P; f5 P; C' q但孔明剛死時他才１３歲，怎能跟其他人比？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:22:
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唔計司馬懿呢？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:25:
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:28:
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智慧高之餘﹐又打得
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維

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but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->9 c. j  D7 ]0 n
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->鄧艾--->姜維
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/ V$ `5 t. g* q, ?5 E打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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第一五分，第五一分
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諸葛亮：5+5+4+1=15) `/ b! _( V2 I$ C7 o  m, ]
司馬懿：4+4+5+3=16% `; N# s5 C( _; F$ T$ c& }
鄧艾：1+2+3+4=10
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:+ g8 u9 v1 c% i7 q+ i. f% N8 j
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:- ~. Y" h% ~' P* d/ j% V% d

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$ ]+ r  g: x8 h7 ]7 ~3 Z: x4 T; kAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機