jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:8 t8 Z! t; U6 t2 ]# b! z# e" [
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
! `2 ]: d6 F( f, _. U+ P/ e2 \4 Xcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case' Q3 h# W& Z7 @, N# Y& t
why this happen? just simple........punishment
( @0 R4 L. W7 emany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
2 M! V+ K7 X9 S0 d, V6 p& Lbut why jesus need to do this?
: _9 R' x5 S0 A  F- [0 m) V; E: lpunsihment for what???
  b- _7 w; B& K' P7 bfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus7 e( x+ q0 a1 n  S# x" H  y
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers+ M7 O5 ?2 ^% f( w& q) O/ \
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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+ V+ {( d1 v8 R# K' s但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
# x$ c: ]+ O' D& f! sbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?5 o9 c$ @! U  r( y! P2 y5 H( W
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
% W. @4 f; [9 F) q7 qwhy this happen? just simple........punishment. [, a* y/ B6 @* U
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things $ W4 k6 d+ w! S' b7 \9 P$ t, I
but why jesus need to do this?
5 c+ M# x, f9 Z; c0 f: o, lpunsihment for what???* t) @8 W: M: P2 u0 e4 T' G3 ]/ I
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus: A5 H1 ^" T; U6 z
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers( r, m( F0 s; _2 a
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u   L6 j4 }3 w+ S% u8 \3 q
what will u do???
! p) H5 i2 E: C- {6 O' p- u- Ejust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,   O" t: p' O- z) u- l/ F- M/ Q

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+ o8 Z7 O- P' }& W1 I, wsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
: [; _0 h! b2 ohonestly, if there is jesus
$ |% S# Z0 Q. Z* [6 z( M3 Nhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
: m2 H. z" t% C8 m' L5 pwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:$ v0 m0 N, B7 G
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life  U4 |% v6 I5 P! g0 A
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
1 h8 I% v0 {  k  M% aso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
0 |) e9 ]# H* V; L1 ynow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:4 W7 E" k* V% V% _, ?
bro singgeihot and rest365days! r7 \9 ^; p/ U) \# {+ G- |
honestly, if there is jesus; i+ J2 }9 q4 N/ C/ o
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus/ h- j. ^) j* [
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
% z. P# _  R" S" notherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
+ j, {1 o. x9 E& {4 J2 ]自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: