jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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8 ?  S1 C  X* y: mbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
+ d" L4 p6 b! Z. N& y+ C1 W+ a0 @comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
2 r; B: g  ^% f! ^3 Q3 U9 ywhy this happen? just simple........punishment" t3 O; Z/ ?  \" A
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things # \  ?! O& U$ [, X
but why jesus need to do this?. I* I1 T5 c6 ]: m
punsihment for what???) Y/ N, h2 ?2 ~. H7 Y
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus, x+ h* m' y- \& {# I5 V$ n& R# y) U
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers9 A6 ]8 p! \, e8 @6 Q
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u , }. f- S' K+ d* w
what will u do???
5 m; e# d! ^% P/ Rjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:  [' `# q/ u' E& X
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6 q! E, L$ f& a9 ?/ Uyes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉3 n$ x  i: b: O

0 C4 _5 |4 D. D; }" n但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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5 j2 K: @1 Z7 X& R8 }咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
( z0 P, {# K" }bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?0 i/ N" [/ K) b% Q# ]0 C" _5 a% ~9 h$ C6 V
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case" P  H/ F. [; h& e2 E
why this happen? just simple........punishment
6 q" P; Z- E6 ?many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 9 z' v7 l# o# n; l" r6 z
but why jesus need to do this?
$ \: `& a( I" I! n+ K0 s3 [3 }punsihment for what???
# I3 E! K+ l) @for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
& F% j+ D: h5 o9 ctry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers& u5 k$ |1 y$ Y
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
2 C( p6 L' t( b+ E8 ewhat will u do???
; o$ c4 Z, {; H# U# kjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, ( r# a- g; j: W# ?

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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0 j2 \. V+ u  l. k) E/ H: xbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days' V. ~. x6 H; W0 u3 D9 z1 W8 n& c
honestly, if there is jesus
* ~& d- u  L+ r1 The really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:; L. X. k8 y6 v( _* J1 [7 [
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
( \0 r2 V# Z- ]5 a8 bjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
; A4 G  R; C% e1 r  ]* x& {( Dso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
% q. Y3 ^$ i* f) H+ A! B- i9 Xnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:9 _3 m: l" e7 i9 t
bro singgeihot and rest365days
( d4 c" u& w! S& shonestly, if there is jesus# i5 f: {) n* y9 k8 a
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus" L# u# W2 o" f& t
we can't blow him :cool:

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' ^' K# Q1 `' u- Xunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
2 g3 U# J* z/ k- ]- gotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
# F. D2 I  J4 y0 Q/ L& k& g自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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1 R4 j! t/ o0 q' I. K: z( n4 n1 m# jhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: