jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:, X% g1 W- v. }& R: x# |  h, ?
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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$ M: h5 {1 z1 F: p. }3 O) S2 ?6 Zbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?6 u" ^% g6 o8 j$ O+ q
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
- n" }* E( |& F" N) Hwhy this happen? just simple........punishment8 b. d- Z2 g5 t
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things + t; T! d6 P0 i% X9 q3 G
but why jesus need to do this?
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  c! i' o) i/ B2 Pfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus9 Z3 G0 v2 K7 B
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers  q, t# ^. _" P! P$ ]" n
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u   Y) c5 z8 C0 D/ H! @/ Q
what will u do???
9 F/ y7 X5 T' O! Q% Mjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:1 Y' W) T; j3 F% Z7 k9 ]

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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$ c0 r  D; y, u  o) P- }) h& ?但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
  O3 @& n/ s( K3 s. ], dbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
4 s" Z. R$ p; ]! C% g# D1 ucomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
4 y, J3 a# y. M% A/ o! c  J' Kwhy this happen? just simple........punishment9 E) |% |& P1 T4 M. z& c0 y5 T% ?
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things : z! ~- q% t8 V# G
but why jesus need to do this?1 G8 K( e2 O, k1 M- f
punsihment for what???
8 M, V* e$ V2 X2 d& o5 K  Hfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
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but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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( T9 ^) F4 ~; g, ~+ gsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:9 h/ `- c# x' A9 g; \# d

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 4 `/ L6 L# j: ^: \

: F. q: y) M8 P. F4 j; B) U議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days0 U, h. _  M& K" ?2 G+ r$ ?! m$ y" l
honestly, if there is jesus
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3 m8 v; X8 S+ U9 iwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
1 f' `$ K, x4 v/ pjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it# k: Z  x) }  T2 Z7 Q  _
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:% {4 H3 q7 g9 W8 w8 Y0 X2 ?6 x
bro singgeihot and rest365days. m* y1 p+ w, Z8 V9 w" \
honestly, if there is jesus" U% C9 ^1 S! r( n
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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6 f* t" W: Y! \" y4 Z' @haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: