jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:* e+ q4 m, T# T6 c% m
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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3 [4 ~  D( {+ x2 Q+ dbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?! x! R0 a4 _2 D- ?4 s
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case0 W/ a9 d) n) o: X$ }' X- j6 G$ o
why this happen? just simple........punishment
2 s# X+ f$ K9 S4 }8 z4 z; ~many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things : @4 u- `9 c! y% Y( \. @
but why jesus need to do this?, l$ D, r) \; z" @) i5 z3 p+ V% ]& U
punsihment for what???
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9 j2 g$ o$ e' c+ r: _! Ctry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
; t. T! Z& E6 p- M5 e( h) m1 dbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:; H4 H( t  _# P6 o5 l$ d

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7 w, o# t  s. D0 P咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉# |& }3 X8 v& d* }
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排  F* {; b6 D9 C

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
; c% d% t4 y4 N( Mbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?& K& y$ X+ s/ s9 s
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case- |* r# q/ O, ?# N
why this happen? just simple........punishment  Z9 ~, E: C  V: |
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things   S& Q" M: S+ \( e8 H6 S! w$ v
but why jesus need to do this?
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9 N) N2 k8 Z% [3 N/ Z8 |for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus' _7 h# d( ?$ b6 M. d9 m: e
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers3 J, M4 p# Y$ Z$ S* n, I3 F) q
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
$ n% {& z. j$ P6 ^$ w/ R9 Twhat will u do???
) ]% D/ |$ }( [3 \: mjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:" g: u! D. p1 P& O7 s# Z" R
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: {/ P0 G/ t0 f& N好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
0 K& `9 T% J1 @* H! [) K1 phonestly, if there is jesus- h7 Z8 f9 J) r
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus8 ?  A; x% A: ~0 _
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life- y- L" O' R9 n, O  S, b
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
3 Q9 d* f* ?3 |; qso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
2 l9 m4 s5 i6 b, [: enow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
# P0 e: `* S! W7 T; q# Dbro singgeihot and rest365days/ O8 C1 u0 Q3 M! i, P; w
honestly, if there is jesus
6 S. u( @- z7 J$ j: bhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus. }2 y: l. L) ^( F6 I) {
we can't blow him :cool:

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4 e8 @' n3 H2 M5 p! G! {understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
0 }: S0 D; l# n; Qotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: