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Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:
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9 N$ q9 L1 R( h$ d  NThis is a good po ...

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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".3 l. N9 S' n5 Y- L
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相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".
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例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%
4 I- d0 N# j" j會考就係最好的例子.( b* T/ @7 V) ?7 U+ Y: C2 p2 Q& ^
就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:
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' b3 X4 v* i+ vyes, i get yr poi ...

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psycho is hard~.~* @' e4 j+ a8 r# }) \
haha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me- Y% o' @- k3 Y4 a
i'll try to think about it more deeply later on
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1 f  l; V7 ~  b/ fgood to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:7 |* ?: T0 _2 N2 n, D( Q
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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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hahhaa, 不用客氣) v8 R& G- n9 r/ `) n
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我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了
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singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:4 t8 m1 o9 X. F  S

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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.- T& T( P+ k* S' v' k4 J7 |

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jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:
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psycho is h ...

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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.' |9 r* V; I: y
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持
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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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haha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)
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again, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO
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jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la# e, A; ~! i6 z9 \, J' o
besides, crap! interest to ask u0 ], w/ w7 T+ ?% p5 |! R
which faculty u are studying, u seems interest in thinking and doing research on social, psycho and philiosophy!