Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:8 B# S1 {8 s' _, ~
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
0 e/ ~% B/ R: o* e又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
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1 v5 m, P% x/ ]& J9 m呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!( R4 |  r3 I. r, R2 n; s& K

" H7 |" f0 e2 S% }# M2 ENobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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1 g$ Z$ @. a; |( amr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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4 S, U& K: V1 t6 nstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
/ n- Z" h7 a& H' kcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
8 a9 Z( O/ j" h$ T我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人4 k/ l4 \3 O' _: E- p# ?
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,( p4 v7 N$ Y/ W2 P8 ?
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
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正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:  q2 F9 K0 _9 g/ y% h1 }: u
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.# b! |% r% x. X. @* f

1 e4 e* Z: g1 xLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo! D* r3 F7 _4 `4 X: l$ k
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:; a$ r4 r& n' p9 w7 s1 ?* w' Q
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....! Y; H9 V! @/ G, R  ^
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......6 z' N! c- F; ?+ n. Y
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
/ f/ j8 U) Y! w& L% G3 oour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
: X* x7 m% D& ?3 u這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全* p; y( U! _& C, o4 [6 H
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
' Q  c  B0 Z( S' g" `8 G而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,3 f7 @( K9 E! F* J6 _2 W% H( Z
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,7 y3 Q1 L- u; B  N0 b
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...0 c# o1 Q, J! r; Y
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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8 F' ^( s% S. d' G) H吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
/ H; y- H3 l. g信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!9 e/ ?) T& A: P' l/ X" z' {. W% a
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:/ W$ p9 Y% A$ e
.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....- i9 K7 a9 f! @  Q

, a8 \- ]; P' ]9 y  \Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....: f& ~& n) i0 D. K+ o
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.