jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
$ u7 F1 y; o1 h仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架* U0 v% n# O. I
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
9 L& d9 m9 ]# s. {comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case2 v* o% i2 j8 h7 b- v
why this happen? just simple........punishment
, m/ e, f# G2 n3 Umany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 4 x6 y) v, D7 m$ _. s7 @& Y( s
but why jesus need to do this?
1 t$ Y3 U+ O% Y+ L/ r; Qpunsihment for what???# n' ^) R6 ^% @7 \
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus7 g  P+ b7 b0 k' L. o
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers) c3 k) H0 g$ Y% P4 t$ q
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 9 Z. f) b+ [+ q. {% P
what will u do???& I5 b9 V! E- I+ G- w
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:- c; g, t) f; \9 h6 g+ q
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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) {5 v7 X6 j: |9 y咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉6 M9 n( m; S1 x* V9 t

" \, q( [; Y. a& y  b4 f但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排0 T  a3 b& t7 E9 m2 t

" V9 z8 u1 r1 q% n+ f/ S7 `" }咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
9 h2 n! O0 ~+ R0 `' obro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
8 N8 e- q* a- E+ i1 f/ u5 Wcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case1 z; [2 e8 ?4 B" f  }8 u6 T
why this happen? just simple........punishment6 z( M. X, j8 t( F
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ; i* B! N" A. l/ R8 y( ?
but why jesus need to do this?
9 j. o" d  v* Y% kpunsihment for what???  Q3 ]1 k, U' }
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
! c7 i( l$ e' S# ~& `; Btry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers/ q+ `" z# n3 M! |, ^8 ?0 K
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 0 s+ H8 O, d. _
what will u do???
+ e9 h/ q, f4 H  R( Cjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, + v! [# G" u" d  u

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:+ n5 x# ]/ g; {6 I
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1 w4 V/ f$ l) E# r. s) q# Pbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 + g# Q0 t' k2 I0 p. k
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days3 Z2 z" m" w! ~& m0 a. H3 X0 Q' ~
honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:/ m7 R% }! }( u  \! o# p. h# X1 F

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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% q; d, a) `  e6 Byes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
1 }, x4 D8 o! f2 ?- i) b$ njust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
- E4 [) N; T) Q9 l5 ~& X5 u5 R( Bso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
. K8 M$ p% U7 @$ d( V  K, Y' enow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:, r* l* [4 F- Q& L4 |
bro singgeihot and rest365days; X; w2 [1 D/ a/ H' ]0 G
honestly, if there is jesus6 ~" W5 N/ ^  a) ~
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
- q+ ?# h8 [8 u/ R+ G- ?we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics7 G) w6 k  O9 Z) I8 @9 B0 O
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:+ a) A" c  B; r" I; z
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: