singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:
# I- |6 ^# o" s" _$ e+ t' w0 x7 ~( E: b5 Y+ o- n8 r
6 k. Q( A+ x! Y9 }8 e3 K
This is a good po ...

& Q  H' Q1 \, t: T# v; |
+ u8 X$ ~' O& E2 y7 c! _
多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".9 w* g: [+ a: O

5 E2 }9 o9 l4 M3 m$ J5 }相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".6 {5 L9 ~6 v! l# ?" f, M

) F: J# w5 D: X% P' M例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%
1 I& v7 J& W4 v$ m- H會考就係最好的例子.0 `! u6 J/ H) L# E6 i  r
就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:
. `* Y0 U; K+ X" @" e$ f) C
- _3 M4 D: o! q4 s2 Q; k- N: V: b4 u1 z3 j, \" B
yes, i get yr poi ...

" Z- S0 o2 G$ ~! U) h* ?
; U/ v! N/ _2 |2 Q2 Jum...
% X6 u8 V9 e' |0 _/ ^4 C7 T$ upsycho is hard~.~: s! s" |; _9 p9 `4 {' O  Q
haha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me: @' \7 m- q' x9 A) n
i'll try to think about it more deeply later on3 z3 |+ R- p3 ~. \6 a. `
2 P" l0 Y' Y" g: q
good to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:
2 E) O+ e- Y! Q
* g* N2 I3 Z7 L) W
3 g6 v3 {' ^9 J; L* l8 E多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

4 W7 b$ V  y) q# j
2 Z; x; h: n  qhahhaa, 不用客氣
6 c) E3 n0 j8 E/ V
/ _5 C; V5 J$ J" j/ i9 E* ~我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了 5 |, \7 D5 r1 d; U& l  ]9 Z
以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀4 H$ a* S" C& ~/ s( M$ C2 Y0 O

$ Z1 Y& f: p" n9 H: }哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:! Y3 w9 \3 J& O! s2 [6 _9 c+ `
; V: f) u, H! L% y5 N
2 D) [. o' ~7 A7 I
hahhaa, 不用客氣
) G2 D8 y5 A7 e
/ O* V! n+ U! F4 H我 ...

* l# d" W0 p! X# ?+ ~

% P+ I0 u" K4 w! M2 n: v4 I哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
, ]2 J$ V9 r5 m/ G( p% B+ q1 x6 i; X6 |& f- M! P3 c
哈哈, 我都有少少離題了.

jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:" X8 Q' O3 _5 z" d

3 r0 A" O5 n# q5 e
5 L, Q  \: H0 n8 H& I0 |: G  lum...
5 ~$ F, Y- ^3 c! z8 v1 {, ipsycho is h ...

! e; i- _- i% i# Y7 ~! n
7 ?4 ^( U. c0 s* T) y
haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:
4 c/ s0 e% q. J! [% {! c
" R% ~5 Y5 h; Z( G8 ~哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
  Y/ g8 [9 H: t' m4 N% R/ j+ N1 b$ U
8 l8 A" I% F2 n; r哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

4 }) q, H' d+ W& K- X6 f! n2 y4 g1 O
哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢
. ]; p! {  C" a; F, K2 P
. \3 j8 [4 A7 h同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦
# x. ?6 @: ]% z, f5 w4 ]0 M7 a0 L, h( d4 e0 z4 V- d7 q* P/ h
你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持, A8 ^- d9 m$ y7 I2 b
1 n1 I5 q3 P/ W
[ Last edited by crap on 2005-4-27 at 02:39 AM ]

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:  r" \( h( c0 B
% E2 O: U9 G% ]( L

+ g" |* v3 K# R8 }4 t) A$ W3 i" G3 shaha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

' z, r- G* l# f6 \: a; D
- S- P0 F2 z* i8 H& K/ Rhaha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)
- H' A& H$ X7 K5 g! Spls enjoy
9 y/ M) r7 S: T* H' O* q( L) J  W2 N
again, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO ( j- p+ D  W' u8 X! {% v7 O2 ~
Give it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la$ H* n0 z" K) [! a: }5 c
besides, crap! interest to ask u
/ S: G$ ^- W2 Swhich faculty u are studying, u seems interest in thinking and doing research on social, psycho and philiosophy!