singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:
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! {: ]/ \8 |9 Q* K" W% ~  y多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".2 D" A) w3 @8 w
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相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".
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例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%
  o( ?& R! Q- j, i6 Z會考就係最好的例子.- T/ y; U$ `' f# [0 Q) o
就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:
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psycho is hard~.~9 m, V5 {1 d3 \) q) ]
haha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me
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- n) }3 i, G% U5 ]good to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:8 |+ P& n% \' {: w

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  W  N; w7 U: B4 ^6 g多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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hahhaa, 不用客氣
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7 e! v# K0 b7 Q6 t, ]& u; F我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了
! l0 d  t" G6 E% u% s* Q以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀
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" j* |- E, W6 Y( _  K哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:
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5 k& H, m8 @+ W8 O( [2 d# `: Q哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了.

jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:6 L" g, p: o; [

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psycho is h ...

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crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:% e% I' e5 g! D% T" T/ ^% r
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.$ |. B# T" Q2 l' `8 ]4 i: y' A

: e3 R* K& V2 L) g哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢$ N4 v: Y+ B( d# y
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同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦& |( @: \& D5 ~

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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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haha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)
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again, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO ' `  E2 C# n# o2 f! z/ ?
Give it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la5 @- ^& Q/ R  Z* {! b
besides, crap! interest to ask u
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