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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.0 u4 d' }* q+ y/ K

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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3 }% j& c9 `! g) gBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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- B- @1 {9 N/ y0 E4 Q) \其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:0 q8 P  y( I2 k* I& z  O0 }% p

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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4 T# h( N& {6 }0 x智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維8 v4 F- d4 D* h7 D

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:9 O2 ^5 F, a4 b9 Z7 @2 P1 `
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:, L7 Q4 o. n; D7 `1 A
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:' q, g" H8 K+ G/ _

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......