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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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% n/ D* m4 W6 OBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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) c+ K/ E7 a! \1 E6 N! G其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus  l. J  w! `2 K& ?$ l
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->. C% Q3 z, G% U% s, o  X1 e

) Z( U9 Z% O6 U* L2 L7 |5 i9 `* w  U軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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4 H4 R  B7 }! c: ^& m打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:3 ?5 b: A3 Q/ ~7 W8 W5 G; w
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:" v( S% `8 x3 w9 @

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:6 {: w4 R+ y" Z( d8 |# o

4 Y6 s1 B" L8 M7 V$ K- Yyes, that's the point.

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