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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:/ L$ O) D9 ]0 ?: w
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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. Z/ k8 q9 T/ j- e1 HBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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網上身份誰不『機密』?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.
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1 B: s6 c' i+ c& |% N# x- f7 h! I7 s其實他們實力差不多,很難比較
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:5 W( j0 p9 t$ G; e* ?$ }  s( m; N

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多,很難比較
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see #22 Thus2 u, B% f5 b6 v& L4 F

( y, ^4 D  k( H' ?  |* v( \+ J; q智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能:諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維9 D. m4 @7 K, O# o' k

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2 N$ e3 V, b) [* Y打:姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮
網上身份誰不『機密』?
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.+ h9 a  w' W- A4 G+ {1 v$ |
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[ Last edited by 機密 on 2006-1-30 at 09:56 PM ]
網上身份誰不『機密』?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
0 K' }& n7 \8 C% IIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:2 T) F6 i+ Z/ e" Y. L2 I

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他比孔明更偉大
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.
網上身份誰不『機密』?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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8 W1 [$ G2 E+ k  I/ lAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.
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他支撐了蜀國三十年,雖然孔明也有27年(207-234),但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多,五虎已屈機
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年,雖然孔明也有27年(207-234),但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多,五虎已屈機
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網上身份誰不『機密』?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:/ q: M, N3 K5 S* C/ J" R

! P( B7 B' y/ y* ?yes, that's the point.
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陸遜也偉大,但不得善終......
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