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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:  j4 [6 q2 g2 T- k$ ]# b. l
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  d, C: L: F" E5 i, T智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:/ i% t' d2 T# G, S9 v7 ^  z% o* L
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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0 ~0 P+ X( M- v5 K* g" q- oBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:. {* _  G3 ~: C) ?
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2 B6 W. K* _9 A& \# J1 L0 l" oBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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5 n5 x: d2 z% k% M/ K( B+ O5 G/ i智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維# P) p# O1 n! Z7 b% c' h  M
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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2 N, U' `' Z' c打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:: @/ ~5 x* h, U+ S9 H: E7 {
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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  ~2 d8 B; C2 E& H2 U他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:8 U. T( ]. w" |! h
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:6 |( I  r8 r7 w2 W

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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5 L2 @2 J5 b' O; }3 z! l他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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3 f1 W7 O: g$ s% C6 C, u- Fyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......