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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:6 b% M) t( C, }+ J2 s3 n& x
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:$ ]: Z* q9 {8 n- N* t+ g8 q
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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# D% ]  j  V3 f- h7 `: M5 Y: Y1 mBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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1 {( v; `3 R# Z; t4 h5 z1 f, ~% `其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:' A4 u/ P9 Q) d5 {( ]
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why?
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( ~( B6 a/ E" y/ y7 w3 Csee #22 Thus
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* H2 Y) H+ v& p1 q1 J智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->0 v% f' E- q4 `+ Z& W

0 j" M2 o. o0 W- x+ R軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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6 k/ Q* X1 }& R. W政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details., v" P, x$ l* \3 t1 l

0 K& k/ h/ ^8 r+ d打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.5 g0 g. T( }3 G6 n  K! C- _
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
, t4 Y; ~# V0 ~4 ^In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:; R  x7 o1 M; V& d0 M# @+ J- _
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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  g0 p+ x$ U6 J& n& v6 ]  kAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:* o& _- K* y# N( I. y: Q

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0 e' m8 D4 a; Z. Tyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......