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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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" p, U" @& M# K/ m$ f3 ebut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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7 X! j! P& _+ ]- [) i2 VBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:( g8 u  Y2 t5 Q4 }

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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" c! _: l+ b; c; h0 h, f其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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( f! B+ V& x( b智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->2 {1 ^7 F) o6 b: u( _
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
" S+ ?$ _1 C. ^: t; J$ G2 z: VIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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/ R1 D3 w/ }. {5 b8 g他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:$ p% |5 N! r& o' o- ]
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* f# j, _# y( kAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:# A$ S/ s0 I  S& E
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) B+ |5 o. Q, zAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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" j9 }% a+ g) C他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:( M( `( O( y2 g" R: a

" y2 \9 y* Z+ B# Y" b. hyes, that's the point.

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