jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:: Q4 A  t& K4 Z+ \& |1 V( C2 p, ^1 S
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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3 A+ {, ]1 j. O$ l" [4 kbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?% [: |5 @$ L: y8 o0 s5 O
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
* w/ g& y! t  X/ awhy this happen? just simple........punishment# b7 g$ t1 z4 b% Y. K6 t: @2 L8 Q
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things / V0 e( O/ c/ n! o" t6 R
but why jesus need to do this?
, }2 g7 ]3 `0 Y) Y- M/ b( T3 `  ppunsihment for what???( w* _3 {% g. |1 ?+ w
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus' ?: a1 s2 _3 j: @- V, q
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers4 H% B7 [3 \! I( M3 x# b
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 6 l: M( V. ~& m2 @
what will u do???
  m* [, \+ j0 Q2 b( Y9 ]' [! [just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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. h* r; l4 t- M5 S0 oyes, what did u think is what i...

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* D" p' T4 d$ o咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
  R6 l" D; ~7 N8 R* m7 \, }7 sbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?1 H& X* a) J% o0 x
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
6 }. j8 a3 u* ~+ |) v% x: {5 T: R8 j. ewhy this happen? just simple........punishment4 @: O2 T  w& D9 g3 s7 B% l/ n
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
3 Z4 h; G: F, b1 ubut why jesus need to do this?
, {; f9 O9 h! G# u+ V$ d9 l; |punsihment for what???4 w, {& i1 w% x- n6 M
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus% u! s2 w. f3 K4 W
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers: n5 p) @) r1 P( B
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
4 t. g- H* p: ^$ \5 x+ ^, {5 vwhat will u do???
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6 ?. r( L! d& A! L$ `sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:& m1 Q3 h& k' V2 P  W9 g6 s, u

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# y8 ~& {' i0 ^" B( H& J& o好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 + G7 E+ W' `2 P' e* ~# v: Q

( ~3 e( b3 P# y9 v! J議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
! C6 D) n4 e9 X5 _4 L  chonestly, if there is jesus
) y3 r! _% W( y9 [/ k- X" ahe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
/ \5 U9 y0 J9 Rwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:! y& t1 w6 j/ ~3 W0 l

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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/ F7 i5 y+ `. a) Pyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
. U6 p- \. d" D5 t; J6 Q% bjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
* c4 l4 q1 x9 X2 D1 p0 x8 m: Tso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
9 r3 |" k/ V- R$ g4 E6 e9 i$ {  N1 fnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:4 {& Q6 @3 h! b0 a0 Q
bro singgeihot and rest365days, H: a- Y  B- t0 d
honestly, if there is jesus: N! L" W+ [$ ]  m! U6 v
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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2 O2 D4 y4 ~4 T& y" `1 l8 u5 z4 T6 Uunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics0 m+ @# F+ S" t7 Q; W) C# F, [
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: