jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:9 ?! C8 i) B9 n+ F7 `, ]  l
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架2 S3 P* H: }$ [  e' F
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0 k+ i* J/ }# e) W1 [5 o7 Mbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?8 `. o9 i& E7 q& O6 G8 J+ C2 q+ h
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case7 X' x# `0 B6 B+ z
why this happen? just simple........punishment
0 H2 i: {. K& g0 J2 H- N) C* A# imany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things + s1 `. M: R1 T0 g+ i
but why jesus need to do this?
4 K, J) S8 d' q" m, y) u4 i3 epunsihment for what???
/ {* {/ L1 h- |7 C  w% yfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus+ `* O" s% A7 y- j; N
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
+ D- Z# ]$ I- Y# y: |7 ebut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
/ y( e; i5 |/ L/ d3 r2 d+ Swhat will u do???3 R2 L) j) h$ K
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:' d& p( Z- v$ O

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+ h2 j* G5 V$ a9 b! Y2 M+ {咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉! z. K1 a1 |" J+ Q

7 H+ x& m# l& N4 d7 y! v但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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7 H' C2 B- b- ~/ a0 `7 t咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:  V; r3 Y/ O$ k/ Y8 F/ B' l/ U
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
, M' S4 ]# |& r- V8 Ycomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
/ G& i, X: X4 V3 B$ ]- B8 X; {why this happen? just simple........punishment
0 b' b& K5 q% h; qmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
  G8 U. a- }( Q, ]7 Ubut why jesus need to do this?
: ~4 y1 e$ m+ ~3 q; Xpunsihment for what???8 Q, h, r' d7 ~4 v$ |7 v
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
2 c& H8 c8 s. C6 @try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers/ ]; y+ p" {: t' r: `; W, l
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u - _& ~' F; D0 L9 f0 e: H0 I
what will u do???% v( q0 n0 f. A" S8 i
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, % T  u6 `* @8 ?; E7 |, Q! t; u1 ~. C

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:1 P) O1 ]* M5 Q, M( J

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' R8 ~, ^" D4 d& X4 L  Bbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days! T, X1 p0 K- S0 t3 d6 _
honestly, if there is jesus
! W0 K& t& e$ W& }he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
5 W  Q# O( G( b) I0 O" j3 _! Mwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:; l$ `7 p' T$ D5 m9 h
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
- A( S3 D& i3 G( ~/ o& Sjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
6 p/ y5 x; _6 B  q: n# f+ a  Gso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......' }/ c5 R% Y0 k6 |. J
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:; T9 t, ~. V. g9 d
bro singgeihot and rest365days
! _5 }0 B1 s7 }8 h/ hhonestly, if there is jesus
9 r' G5 k4 r8 Y" i# ~( K8 S$ {he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
1 Q, ]% R# X6 X* J/ fwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:7 v# V$ j2 w- t2 l
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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4 n9 [0 j+ z' {5 k5 T5 B, \* {* S: jhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: