jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
3 `. W" x  u* M. V4 D) ~# N) F4 C* ~( T仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架8 f( _; o& A3 Y) {/ ?9 Y4 ]
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?! k. J6 V2 A  e- K
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
  w  S) w5 @( J! r8 cwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
( A* y2 ^' ?% ~many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 9 _3 D. @% m/ B. S  i6 ]
but why jesus need to do this?9 I4 {3 v& K' `$ m( T1 b5 L7 t
punsihment for what???
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
) }' T4 {' X! D+ U& Cbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:& G  [2 B) E* A/ ?/ D

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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7 \; M# q7 R1 K- s5 {( t: @咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:8 ~7 J5 t  k" i/ I, f0 w$ [  D
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?3 x/ E6 Q3 R( G
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
- O7 z& k/ Q$ V+ N& Ywhy this happen? just simple........punishment- H0 Y7 t/ b7 ^
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 3 B' c9 B! S1 P# ~0 x% {$ \
but why jesus need to do this?( F$ X4 E& O3 I! K7 i# ^) t
punsihment for what???
1 J! P/ G+ w" B' afor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus8 i1 w" j/ ?! F8 ]' Y0 y
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers. y! b2 @  F$ H4 u
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
! _+ Y$ D# j& q+ B' v6 c* k- owhat will u do???
4 S) R& r# p# l* G2 [2 Ijust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 1 X4 D0 }5 f& X! @- E% A

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4 M. J* r& Y. y% q2 k: usorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:. C5 D/ D# T2 c

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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& \1 Q; O4 j6 Q3 b好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 3 {1 B, [2 d& K- E* s) J  u1 v

( d; _5 f$ e( ]. x! i議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
" I) B2 Q- n/ m- c. {7 m' yhonestly, if there is jesus% g, a  w% e9 b# [9 i" \2 d
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus& H+ d1 P4 X+ T
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:4 o4 l/ g7 q7 E. j

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
) e7 d  e9 u% Tjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it, Z: b; v8 p: K1 ~& a. U8 R
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......' n0 {, M5 @7 h
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:4 q5 g& w1 F/ u  ]$ @: f
bro singgeihot and rest365days% v0 S  L; R; Y; Q7 D
honestly, if there is jesus) K. a7 ~3 L& _2 v: _
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
4 i, o* O9 F# k6 g* e  W& hwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
6 X3 k, O0 o6 y# Zotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:( S7 J/ s, y9 `  r
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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7 S% r# n0 x" f( o7 k+ a1 \, @" bhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: