jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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2 Y+ R8 I% T% H& p% y0 l4 v/ R. Nbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?1 N& G+ W2 r7 ?1 |* A6 G
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case$ M' ?$ }0 b5 e
why this happen? just simple........punishment0 {, w+ P( d1 s; Q8 Z. ?4 o
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 6 u+ o3 F+ g- Y+ m- `2 v  e5 {
but why jesus need to do this?2 [% x* ]$ Z* b  p) z
punsihment for what???
  u# Q. J" ^$ {* L' h# ifor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus/ j! V9 A0 {7 _$ P* L* K$ A2 k
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers% {) f! z+ H8 Y7 x8 A; _) x# ~
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
; M& L# ^, I) q% o" kwhat will u do???
# k. z" \1 q: c7 ^# K' yjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:  ~. p, X6 L4 ?

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; P  \8 n" Y6 }+ f1 u, i- @yes, what did u think is what i...

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6 y  H/ Z; b: t) ~; s咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉: a" G6 b& A9 U3 g3 \) g. \
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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  x4 Y, ?/ t# k* b9 K咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
# L; k1 F2 ], w6 Y( H, q; x9 s( Sbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?6 \- p7 d% C1 T; |  n, |4 U7 G  d1 n
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
, O  z) }5 R2 ?# A6 W5 L3 r, n1 C5 |why this happen? just simple........punishment/ C" k7 [8 c7 I7 S5 _/ h# E) E  T
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
, ~0 U# m* D  B  Qbut why jesus need to do this?+ m  O4 C3 Z. Z7 ?3 k. I$ K
punsihment for what???
) _8 j; t/ U1 L7 |7 k1 `for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
5 a  s7 c7 r7 x) Jtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
" b6 a* W/ n( lbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
6 t. i- q8 n" M3 _* H0 owhat will u do???
4 P, X) E7 o% s' W$ Fjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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6 T* u" K8 m; ^sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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' S5 h8 ]5 \+ S3 ~好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ! O# q# t7 Y% V# T0 w! O/ @. |

; }: @2 o8 y' z! G議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days# f3 P3 u9 O' |  I. p! R
honestly, if there is jesus$ _9 o4 J- z+ R) ~: Q: j
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus3 B/ p7 _0 ~4 |
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:) H# E' ]& s( z: b# `5 o

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; Q$ T; k+ E- v好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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. q4 ?+ p2 A: @" y' Byes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
1 q1 Y, _% [- i3 d6 _just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it5 k0 u# Z7 A! P# a7 z8 u5 P; L
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......; U. E8 l% {% P) p
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:/ F  J* R( u, q( Z) h, x/ w& b
bro singgeihot and rest365days4 h. i7 k" c8 V  E
honestly, if there is jesus* N; g4 i& [% l
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus) ?  t3 a2 p. D& h
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
6 C5 @' @0 r# {( _otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
' Q6 C" v) D3 M: E) F1 ^; P3 u自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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3 N2 A: j5 H7 `( z8 _0 zhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: