Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
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又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
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呢D就係做人的悲哀

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% }' l4 {! u3 q* Z$ O5 DNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!+ P+ t1 K9 D7 O. D

; \6 x% s' C7 SNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....- \. S' R; j& `! B6 f4 e, m1 H
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....$ q2 g3 @  d* M0 H1 R1 I
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....+ d2 s1 }% \6 K; w/ ^5 `3 m
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!$ i# f7 E/ B& Y$ T' H
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
2 v, X/ j3 j. V- y' [1 E8 W真的!!這不是反話
! v; d+ F2 H3 n- Q9 Z% i因為我是情感比理性強的人
: S) ?% s' Z, r/ I- b0 h7 s9 P所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,% T  k. x! j$ O! `3 S& e
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,% B6 S9 b, x+ A' @! |
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...( H6 h: W! \8 @, ]7 v( @6 W; \
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:, r7 q8 x5 p- I3 k& W: a
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?" l0 P) _4 B0 E/ T) a, Q6 Y# x
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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& @- B) `! M9 O9 K' [Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
# }5 ^6 C" Y# h( F1 J) {建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失": s' b9 A4 A, y7 P0 ]9 C9 h& h1 M
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
' _6 Z! u. f& B" _1 I! zbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
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our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
9 X! C3 R: n* U% X; q( d只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
% q, n2 |1 R$ Q0 m$ T用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
' \0 C/ N: }  {. O這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
  N* U6 p9 k& ?2 d如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
9 B, E$ T2 U# c7 ?+ G+ J. N. c而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
+ o, I1 H; t. }+ _" v% [' V' s好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
) y. D. m3 x, O, I改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
! `9 X/ J4 K) h! H( C' J# i8 w美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...3 U+ w! m6 e& \# F5 m
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
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以下是其他人的見解,
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http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............" z  O# V1 T* s: [" A

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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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- M# X  v7 V" F. P. d我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
0 p! M( S3 u6 [8 [' f% T' S.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....
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" N/ H( Z$ Q1 k9 X! OActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.