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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:& e* g3 G! r& Q' @8 v4 f. z- s
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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7 X$ E/ f7 u+ V7 K$ n9 L道理我知道好多只係做吳到
, @' ]0 Y: A, q% p呢D就係做人的悲哀
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!2 ]+ ]; @" d! @1 }& j1 F8 E
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....% `; R. E( H9 p- E2 B

, |0 ]. |- y, Q. k" ?& Vmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....2 M2 [9 L% {, u4 Z5 c
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves...... u, [2 b. a% q  N/ u
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!/ z6 N$ X) ]$ J8 }5 ^- B* C8 q9 @
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人
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We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,9 ?( v* G; Z0 S' ?3 |6 P  O+ e
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,0 d0 m/ k! y  r& ^( Q% J
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
% }* d; m' R# X( E( L建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?
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# k3 `2 q; s9 n6 r, tJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread., {2 j$ O9 I7 Z9 M4 n7 O5 m# S
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo& d. D! U2 x. p8 E" j- p
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( ]0 `4 z; e) S) Z) n[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
7 s3 G* G2 G" Z- s建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"- N& b: K! A: k: g! W. w& p
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
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it's starting because we have sins......8 m$ _5 o/ I) w/ V+ Z3 w5 I
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 1 e# e/ M  v8 y: F8 i
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"  c8 Q! y5 @1 D! h
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,: s9 W+ `+ T2 X
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
% D+ H4 n% {6 f1 @& i. Z這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全7 w) \: _$ x6 t/ Z
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,- T+ r9 t# V5 ?- K* _0 f
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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% X% w9 J; G3 d# w6 W2 M! s導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,% c/ G4 R! q& i8 t3 d
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,, D4 S0 e" u) m( _7 b* \" U3 t
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法9 p7 D4 K- [0 t( E( e
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
$ R* h* t! B' P5 j  P& O' K- C信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,# R( P/ P* g: L$ A
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤, _- @' O- w5 G" F7 z
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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5 Z0 g  U( R6 X& }5 t7 c3 ?信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!8 \. |9 ?  `) M% X( d/ w3 t+ ^

1 C$ Z2 Y: R4 Q( k2 j不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!, G& N$ s4 E1 V9 G0 {2 r

8 M$ s# k! E  h. G1 l8 K我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!1 l/ G7 H% a& l0 S9 T1 A

5 N; s( w' ~; W; R& f4 p# G2 a' k同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:: A; p; K* r4 f5 c- M
.............信耶穌... ...
( H! W0 L. M& t6 Y1 C/ MRegarding the resurrection....- y" A% W; A$ g5 U$ h: Y; M

- ?% k" W$ X* h* ~Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century...., J# q# ?( q2 d" L/ \
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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