Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
" t$ j: Q' p, j; O5 _5 R我係一個連自己都吳信的人
" i9 n' G5 x5 x又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢0 o& ^' j9 h% s$ u9 _
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
/ r& M" x0 h3 o1 @9 s5 qcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
1 b) a( W' O" O0 K8 R8 x我只不過微小的基督徒...................3 ]4 h8 z% g, b+ p7 w9 B  J
真的!!這不是反話
. J+ _: t6 ]5 l' d因為我是情感比理性強的人
4 i0 M9 w8 J7 W2 C' I所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失," p4 X& J* F$ W7 k, G, E1 M1 |
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據," ^; X9 E% X8 R2 x
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...3 B  s6 w$ K8 ]6 _9 H. z4 H
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
0 g% |  A1 _4 Z0 C/ x2 v$ G建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? 1 a3 y, F: I/ M0 k

  O  _- }) ]3 s& O+ m0 gI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.  h& N& A8 y1 v' @7 v6 d: H
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo3 M& Q$ w7 Y3 N, h0 w
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
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"不信也沒損失"
$ S# ^2 c1 n  u: e# C4 NYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....6 @& B" b% E3 R1 Y0 U( T
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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3 {: ^. G, `: C6 Nit's starting because we have sins......
% f1 W: ^0 Z+ c% M: P* csatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us , N+ p3 q  @% W0 |
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"0 m* |" Y9 c; _
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,) h  u) a$ r" o+ B- u/ u' l
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
: A% B+ o( E+ Z這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
! a. k1 p6 f- Q$ r) k1 w. t如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
2 L2 r8 j7 P' _2 B而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~, {8 _9 @' b% s. q5 w5 L# {9 |

$ |2 n2 q5 k5 u% ~1 m7 i9 V導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
0 {" S5 `0 B: W好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,9 }) A2 H. U% A. u

5 W- v# |" Q2 _9 H. N& ^: r一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
$ q  J* o* H  v改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
( L& b1 b& g8 K6 V3 S美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具! N6 Q1 y5 @  w7 N  ^
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
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以下是其他人的見解,0 G! ?8 \6 r$ H+ i  ~: @+ D
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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4 D8 L. b/ O* t8 C' \信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!% i. ?2 O; q( t* `

9 T% d3 N+ D# J$ t( g; G6 z! D不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!! X! c: F7 r8 W9 M8 f3 f
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!0 z$ K$ M8 }& e

% x0 f1 y# Y7 A- K同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
0 Z" p+ w4 x& `7 ]* F& i- K.............信耶穌... ...

( |; N2 v6 q+ [5 N+ Z& L, PRegarding the resurrection....  @1 B4 v' b  ]! _8 K

4 Q- v* w2 _# y! `# rActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century...." D2 Z+ m. h1 Q) i  |( D  Q
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.