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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:* Z" V; c- x7 G
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.0 s, H) G# Y+ |1 h4 e1 G

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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; q. Q) p+ l) U) A3 D, T  I& ]  ^0 LBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:, T  C& Y9 q' ~7 T/ a1 B4 ^5 M! _
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8 O2 C* @7 n5 |$ D& f智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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* l& f6 C5 k# {/ K軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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7 ?0 b3 o. D7 a7 n) U打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:3 A0 H! v- @# B) C
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:% Y0 W9 V, m6 k( _

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他比孔明更偉大

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% b% w0 p9 }* p8 i6 N( L$ YAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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