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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:. P4 x5 r8 w9 r9 S: p
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5 a8 m; R* @( j- I1 w  }智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:. a2 u+ h% m2 G4 r3 o
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why?
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1 V! H8 o4 E7 @; I# s" e其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus8 l) T9 Z& c9 a, c, l# {
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->0 \/ N- A+ {$ i
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維5 z3 |" S8 z, k! p8 h' A' |6 n

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:& W4 Y) R  j2 T3 g+ V
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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* f: N+ `6 Z! ?7 ]他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:0 F4 t, v1 A4 n, B5 I: O
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:. d& ?5 B; {0 S3 L

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+ s6 [7 F! F4 X! RAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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3 c; w1 b, z1 o3 d" d& a他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:2 S7 D( ~! b; n* ?; K& L
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

" R& a% t% Z9 u8 G3 cyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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7 x$ Z$ [7 _$ v* zyes, that's the point.

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