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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:0 g2 L! `1 G% U" z+ N9 i' ]
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:4 `0 m) h3 x' |( E  l

6 E3 p" k4 y% ~' X" x# J2 cbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:+ N2 B4 X9 P3 S; o5 s! N8 l* N* e
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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/ B; z- ]- W& F+ G: J其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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% K* i) _- b- c( Ysee #22 Thus
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維& y2 U. _& K/ g  e# Z) H5 f& }5 Q

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/ J4 ?5 T3 a5 x( d6 q1 n( w- a/ ?打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.$ D& I3 k* J, J. ^- R8 a

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:7 ]  c! B( {: ?
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:. W; t# B) S2 c& c* d6 i

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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3 m* M; x" F5 {$ ~3 |2 e他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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0 V/ y3 H: |& |: F. m0 F# p他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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