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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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5 c( P! ?( e3 l0 I; w. R' L7 sbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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2 q; x' j) ~. j! Q: `. u- ZBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.  U. n0 ^4 d  z9 l' Y4 k

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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% g  |% Q2 _/ C' v) HBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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% [! I0 F6 ]- B$ H' D& z其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
2 G% p) R  }( aIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:! @/ S0 u, H6 k' R5 U2 Q
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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- h5 H" \4 L* L, U3 g他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:! s/ C5 W  |* d5 L8 o" l
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* ?" y( K+ A" s+ w5 v# M& c6 e2 A他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:$ \: H: T0 ~2 n0 W0 H( {

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