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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:. U% f  j, P/ V# G3 F
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:5 H! C; U/ u! Y
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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8 D( K3 Y8 m+ @6 SBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.0 w. ?. _8 W  _' d  t! L# I
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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- |6 u1 I: }7 {/ S+ G: }: lBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:6 f# Y8 I- Q8 M# ~
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* H$ G% T8 N7 s* b  _& D其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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4 A1 L  d& V4 Z9 u# p9 M智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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4 o+ ]: i8 g$ G' X& \4 ]$ b軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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0 X% `% K% g0 E" h3 V政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.) M4 M2 ]" Q4 i  Q; `$ k, y$ O
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:+ ~' J3 _3 w# {
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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' m5 M- }4 R# p: K他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:7 v. a- P; |: i/ K* T7 v
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......