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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:) H) p" w6 Y' P7 G! Z( [8 U  q, `

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:8 m6 v3 H. v: p! P

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/ k  |; `. C1 \! X. DBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.% z$ v- D5 C) n: X

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:# H( q  `( u5 B1 b2 ]4 [
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/ @4 d$ L1 q5 e: j3 F: `But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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% h2 |# w# ]1 l  F% Y1 b1 R其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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. }8 a3 U+ D' }2 Xsee #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維* e2 ]- E! l! \+ L

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.9 X" L0 ?5 n7 h1 d& a

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:5 b/ Q0 X* J, r) F6 q4 m4 `
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:' i! n: X9 {0 `$ i& X6 ~) S+ c4 R
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:5 M0 z3 E. u& L

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0 u1 s* E3 C% k  wAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:) ]9 U8 {7 M  h  R

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:8 g& ?) d1 f, J$ p

9 d7 I2 c7 z) x2 h& z1 C/ Zyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......