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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:3 w: v- k! G( S5 o; H1 Q+ M

) F& V( Q% C$ l, K, ebut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.. \9 v3 x: R0 ?- _+ a

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:; B; ?7 }! ]2 Q
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:- j3 P% O/ e) e
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/ N2 z  i9 A6 Z0 q8 o  Y8 m其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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; m5 d0 r* A4 W6 O  r; b智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->( G: t$ a" j1 V* y1 V
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.# {  t; l2 r4 L: C. a

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
/ z' m: y0 C  R: i9 Q& CIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:7 q1 B7 O, {  C( s6 q0 |- L" j
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:0 f2 F0 w# x% s& g6 ~& Z
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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+ i; [( P& I- B  s8 E: j他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:0 c$ n0 u3 d4 C, s% o! L% _; ~

. `# u7 T$ ]) x: @/ hyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......