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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:0 Y6 k. S! P5 O: k7 n# }
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.9 {: p; |; a$ f) I4 f* T* z

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:6 q* c0 @* W; _
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/ ~1 m5 w3 {1 ^$ K# _, m3 f8 WBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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: g; t3 B# G2 T/ }# [- P其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.& V6 Z* m9 \. }, q# A
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
9 e: D* ]* f+ E+ p5 OIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:" j: ?. d, h0 r3 ^3 k9 v4 ~& G

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. {! M; b) g, dAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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  G+ F  ^  {4 ?- r# Z% C5 NAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:4 s1 [$ V1 y% `0 L( Z* Z

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2 k/ c/ J* _" p  h: d% C* g& ^他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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2 b! G: o+ S+ F9 l) P) Dyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......