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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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. w1 M# v; E# G1 |" o; Nbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.! g6 W1 L% X3 g! r3 v* m
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:# @1 [# ^/ y  _; j4 K' u, k

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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* l# f# A# Q1 ?: c( s1 o& F其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus/ e& N" }0 F9 N& c: _
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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% u. i) p: N# q' F" {. j! y1 l/ X軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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/ G0 w3 T5 }9 `6 Q7 `! X8 Y打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:; p$ g6 K3 o" h: y3 k6 O2 S! c
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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5 q" p% V  p" f- X! @Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:+ t" T5 d4 o  s9 k" l5 C

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1 v: b' Y4 Z6 xAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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* n0 M: o& R7 m6 L% S( I" ~; ^, e2 C他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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$ w# }: L( }7 P, x. b; ^yes, that's the point.

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