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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:# Q( L  V& }$ @" O5 Q- a; ^6 C, r

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" v/ x5 M/ t7 f( L: I) U, ?智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:1 z2 T( a' m1 h' A
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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: P* s; A5 X3 f  Z( ]But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.6 l& k1 j6 |* W# R
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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$ Q" ]0 ]' g" N. N% {/ }! |0 wBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus( D9 t1 f+ G! [  Z  p- t2 k; _
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.% r7 R) ?' r+ L6 Q8 p1 U5 h

5 V( |* u" U! J) }打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.2 O9 R1 K& s( F
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
6 v! b4 u) ^0 L3 P# K9 c/ p8 KIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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8 f% x. h! R& C他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:1 U  R+ D7 }9 p/ Q
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他比孔明更偉大

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6 T& U. u* C. _9 A8 ^Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:4 d, j( g% Z6 `5 k- [* `: Q8 N

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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# M8 }- n3 W6 u- Y5 K- F* ^他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......