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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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  Y% H3 B9 R# t' q$ p8 \0 nbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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! `( R' P1 C+ o  M/ n+ _' _$ KBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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0 U0 T  ?5 a: F6 i8 c/ DBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:: u$ j+ O; r' z" l- V! X  ~% x
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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5 d* n; Q( z( `: j  B) K* d, e智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
9 ^3 V. F0 S: {2 I5 Z) j0 IIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:+ D$ q& J4 ?! B/ ]

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他比孔明更偉大

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3 h7 G- U7 I5 R; BAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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4 f7 ]- g2 N4 k6 d他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:6 E8 E9 k2 d8 u0 ^; N

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:* ?$ F; W9 Y. q; y: M5 Y- x

/ n' ^3 f% w3 {* zyes, that's the point.

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