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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:- H2 r/ b0 Z7 D" p6 q
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:# Q" u0 N. N" ~' d$ V1 y  x

: o3 L  s. N1 K. i5 Z2 Y. zbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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& M, x3 x/ g( H& @1 S# B! W/ o; ~+ TBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮./ d* G3 v+ W: ~

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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2 X1 M9 j! [! ^. dBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:3 p6 ?6 g0 d3 M9 E

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/ G6 L( u9 m. B其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維  O3 H; s8 y1 M3 j

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:7 w9 ~# h- k* x& q6 t8 N/ Y- m
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:5 K6 F+ r. E# D( H- x: W- z  g
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6 Z$ s2 \: J  fAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:: E( v2 r2 ]/ h; v  L. u

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

2 ]* ]% @- E7 Y4 {( cyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:( ~/ {1 `+ p% w! f5 z( L

5 y! ^! K$ @$ H) a9 m) y5 Vyes, that's the point.

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