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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:/ Z# A4 G* ~2 F

" E( q- X8 @# b& s! N% Wbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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) ?8 {* @' u5 a+ u; u1 \" R- WBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:; I1 J/ E* u2 W+ Z* b; \% u

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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$ g5 j: {% i' X( B其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:# A) T3 x, y* J$ y1 `. e6 J
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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9 S) N' f  E& P% \智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details./ W* R4 q. m. L* W! z( Q. W4 u/ p

# c$ @, F- r1 G) o: I' i" j: X打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
7 N1 o" u7 k% g/ f! w' G' rIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:) g8 g4 B) d' f* l9 ^  }8 R) V4 M
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7 ~, D* ~1 O& {3 F) ]! G7 BAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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! C, u8 y9 X; r1 Z* K他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:  g9 r( D9 B4 _3 W

6 Z5 W1 \9 C* B3 b: W' pyes, that's the point.

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