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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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: [: C4 n% ]' m/ H" oBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:% H/ O, Q: |4 x. w
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:+ r) o& m; V- `4 Z% F2 R$ p
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2 u& Q8 Y; J) K( S其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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9 b( |2 d3 m5 B1 Z# Dsee #22 Thus( Q. W' C; G- |- L, D
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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4 C+ v% |. n- Y1 z# l6 h; u政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details., x/ k( K" p5 B- A) q: J  m
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.5 a; o9 j, b1 Z; e6 {

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:9 Z* s6 ]( z# H+ w* b; r
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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' k7 B' Y# i8 U) f3 g! @/ z/ a他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:: w. f, Y- V6 H4 [# |

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他比孔明更偉大

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5 y, X0 Q, I5 C4 J! }0 K1 aAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:# C0 {' v5 a! Q# A3 g5 t9 r
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" `* \! ?( Q* H( u( v) X" O4 I% D他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......