Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
6 A" {- O( i* e1 \我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....0 j3 x6 @/ ^* r

. ?, ]) |, I) L' B7 n; Y% _1 lstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....5 g: k" {1 M1 L8 ~( p1 h
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!2 `( v+ K/ {( a- ~0 U$ J' R' `# Y
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,/ ^% L# B" O. ~4 p
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
6 _* i* ?# b. J. h4 \在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...- G' J% q2 o4 {# m
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:, K1 l7 |0 K2 v
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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( ]8 a) {% v) D- F0 I6 K* X6 MWhat a statement we have here?+ ]3 p, [: J5 ~% w
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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, }! Q3 H* w& B+ V- lLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:$ Q( L$ m5 e' g  R
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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# Q! I% G5 N) r8 C"不信也沒損失"
3 J1 G! X# C6 m' ^Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....; M: a* J, x  R& p( w9 ]
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......  S5 y' j# _/ b" s

$ Y% b6 k9 I5 V, x1 J/ H; tit's starting because we have sins......
" o3 h% c/ [; S9 esatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us ) y  y3 j+ x, f* n) b7 i5 d
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全4 |$ E# Y; b6 t$ C. z
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
1 p/ H9 Y+ }! T( ?8 K- {5 ]8 P) H1 f而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,, e6 N/ ^* {3 R) k1 u3 g
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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8 Y/ F* D% j+ i+ O0 M2 c- ?5 e; D一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
6 U7 ^4 }4 {4 s. Q% Q- F0 j改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法0 ~+ C9 r7 [- G( P
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具3 c$ l0 u0 A& @7 ^( H' K

/ Q7 ^/ _& |5 p' {/ a' G吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,! i0 F% g) ?: K
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干1 w. k1 J4 ]  m5 a2 g8 ?
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以下是其他人的見解,
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http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............( j' a# v2 d8 ?; l% ]/ q# s
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!: b( N6 B( _* k' z* Z# a6 X

. r/ A" I' \0 _" _$ U, Y不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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8 J" ?' n+ ~' V+ D( }我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!) N  \- x* c  a
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
% H$ g. u  R* L; _6 V, c.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection...." i* E/ q& x/ E
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.