singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:
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This is a good po ...

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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".
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相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".
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例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%+ L# F' H% F# y6 M( o- \1 I1 n
會考就係最好的例子.$ T1 n+ x1 O7 A& R3 Q4 m6 W' T# k4 Q
就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:
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yes, i get yr poi ...

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um...
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haha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me& @1 v; q" e# v, ~8 h
i'll try to think about it more deeply later on
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( I" Y. v) {3 I. N! X$ ^good to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:  n3 G6 A' V% D- }- R9 @' ^

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0 q1 T, S$ Q, s6 s; s  F6 s" |多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了
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% ^" w$ h0 b$ s( e: V% i哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:' g  h, y) V% ~3 h6 h0 r

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我 ...

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5 f( k' G4 v) r' m; I) F哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.# \7 x9 O0 S9 m( w9 S
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了.

jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:/ T7 i' {2 W, j, X7 g! }

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um...
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crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:, v2 I; |. l) T8 S* ?- S+ ]( Q; ]( p
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.: m9 }) V5 h* ?

& I2 \; N+ G3 F0 j6 H哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦% _* I: E0 L, z/ S7 J* B& i0 l. u
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你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持
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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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6 [- z, i+ O* X( j, `. I1 phaha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)
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again, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO
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jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la: d  d" q0 H; k$ i! W, f" L, {/ l
besides, crap! interest to ask u
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