singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:, L; d% v' \2 H

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: Z% ^. W6 @& M" F$ @& p4 _This is a good po ...

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' \- m6 _# R4 w% O- t0 e多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".
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例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%  N6 V3 y5 @2 d8 ]$ P8 k+ ?
會考就係最好的例子.& s4 j# z: u1 G* k" ^5 R& P
就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:8 }/ p% V6 A, B

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psycho is hard~.~
$ M, d/ [6 _7 ohaha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me
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; t5 |4 u' N( w* p  J- ^good to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:) ^! G5 n$ X) o* k
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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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hahhaa, 不用客氣2 c6 I; i" p: k; l# q0 x1 J  ^
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我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了 ( i1 k8 Z/ C2 z  q0 t3 ^( n8 A
以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀
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哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:0 B+ l6 W6 i/ J( o6 U# W: s

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hahhaa, 不用客氣
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, v3 P, F3 |3 i9 Q哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了.

jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:/ \& n5 U6 D9 U; {( d3 i! r

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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.$ o3 N. m" D& Q! G

" H" `3 _# x/ n# A2 d$ b8 L5 x哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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# k# F! T6 |9 \7 @5 I& s# M哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢
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$ W5 G# M/ b4 x. G' T4 N同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦& X) i6 P* k: X, `8 Q7 Z. Z

1 s5 j) m* s, d+ w; K% i你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持* f4 H0 H# a, z: T
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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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* f% O& H: b. i! ]7 A: W* Chaha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)
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' V# S6 n6 P+ @8 o  l! q# _) ?again, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO
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jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la* U7 u7 I; @* V) v
besides, crap! interest to ask u
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