singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:
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# {; g9 G+ q  A- b# FThis is a good po ...

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5 z# {3 ?' t9 Q5 L* G" l多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".
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相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".
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例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%& ?' y$ J" h) E0 _
會考就係最好的例子.
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奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:
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yes, i get yr poi ...

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psycho is hard~.~
: \' [/ U4 _( T- i/ e3 L: Vhaha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me% e+ g: e' _6 ?; e) }( {
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good to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:2 Z' \; w- o& h  t

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1 y! [' ]4 ~7 R6 Y多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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hahhaa, 不用客氣7 O' K; f% S6 b. D! ~
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我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了
3 ]9 m+ T/ g  r- A6 R以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀) I" j* S$ M* F$ Z8 Z: h

1 B; v2 ^9 A1 h4 n, q9 G3 H哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.- h% T9 s* M0 Z0 K
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了.

jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:
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psycho is h ...

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6 c3 a2 g1 N0 t2 Zhaha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:- Y: y3 N& o  {( F$ s7 i

& i: b. ^: i+ ?9 T哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.5 {) E8 p6 Q; Y& v+ |! a
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢* q' a* \/ H, D- k+ Z; r
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同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦5 Q3 l$ M) w0 C2 f. p) }  {/ @

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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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5 j! [- l0 @, @/ m: [* z" ehaha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)
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again, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO # [8 q1 N# r* P4 \% Y
Give it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la
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which faculty u are studying, u seems interest in thinking and doing research on social, psycho and philiosophy!