singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:; m$ E/ f( J: c: S- _3 ~
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This is a good po ...

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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".
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相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".
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例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%
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奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:4 f* I. [' U  z
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yes, i get yr poi ...

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haha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me
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" l7 U) y. N; @" j) b! R- }; I0 c. Xgood to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:
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4 R/ J: C9 j) v' Q" b$ p8 q多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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hahhaa, 不用客氣
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我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了
0 a  X2 |; X( r+ y- K以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀8 i+ T/ t8 \4 |( r! W0 r
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哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:- w3 ?' S; K" I" r* [5 k- v

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我 ...

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9 n( H9 n1 _1 f) a, o哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.2 L0 }7 }- O; \! }# A% q

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jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:0 z' C* ~) P4 K! z' Z/ |! _: y8 J) _
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psycho is h ...

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crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:
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/ t! @  V7 g8 E, y哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.) {5 K3 }) K) `

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  Z1 Z$ F+ G9 C  l. o哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢, ^* l' J5 s7 o# P4 ^

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你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持0 K6 H  `. G1 D8 @1 a* D6 I! c% ^

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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:8 o- i% b  P5 `! w, F- ^

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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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haha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)  b- |9 F0 p. V* q
pls enjoy
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Give it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la- B5 |) l" h: Q
besides, crap! interest to ask u6 M# O; O: B# M3 c5 N" r
which faculty u are studying, u seems interest in thinking and doing research on social, psycho and philiosophy!