jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
. u4 o+ R  ^8 e+ j0 Rcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case5 @: B; u' @; s1 W5 d, X7 g6 H# M
why this happen? just simple........punishment
" l. Q# l; _2 G. Q+ l# w: Rmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 6 w' g6 A8 _5 n" f) E
but why jesus need to do this?/ j7 E) G' `' G$ [- F) l  B' n
punsihment for what???
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
3 v  O: k  G, S6 I$ Gbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ! O" r+ O9 x# ]
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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2 m; x' [# m; n# ~但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排0 _" m0 K+ Y! g: K, Z2 Y
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
& w( U1 X" d4 C1 y. }bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?5 ?" H4 B5 g5 x+ c1 A8 W& f
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case1 c5 l$ g; `. i4 F* Q2 q: @
why this happen? just simple........punishment, k7 z7 h+ Z" h' x/ ^6 i6 F: o
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 2 M6 p  `+ t) @+ u& I; w
but why jesus need to do this?! f7 u8 v" J, _# t& O) N: z6 a
punsihment for what???
6 U6 _; {+ `* i# h4 _( Y- ufor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus7 @1 a: X4 f. U! _  ]; |: v
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
! C& V2 P' _2 V4 {) A! }& F7 K! Rbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
, L0 @# a( }2 G; @, C6 r1 Hwhat will u do???
8 r+ V0 f$ f% g  e  f$ M( Y' c! t( tjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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& j& Z8 R" O" M* [9 esorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:$ l2 W5 J5 M$ X% g2 `
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& P8 p" `: a7 e4 \( sbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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2 s. [  E' g; G4 N, G7 V議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days  s3 q/ e, m4 g) x
honestly, if there is jesus
4 {9 w4 Q6 r: i4 H+ q" R( B( E& C$ Bhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus  D7 V+ D2 `% ~1 R) y7 E* ^
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:2 C4 U5 W' x6 P5 u3 Z

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life6 H: R* Y, n, Z/ H2 ]; U0 l% X* f
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it1 K, M3 @3 M- Q" b) L; r
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......6 `  _: Y# o  K% b- y  E4 F
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:2 P, g/ \' n  A* r& L
bro singgeihot and rest365days
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3 P- @8 `3 \: @understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
8 X, T( D( T- h# G' |% X, `otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
3 S- g  V  I! i3 }$ D! N5 O自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: