singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:* n' S* N" e, |7 |# b
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This is a good po ...

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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".
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相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".; D/ _  h2 v6 w. X% u
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例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%
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就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:+ y* b5 u) z$ d+ `& y' r
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yes, i get yr poi ...

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psycho is hard~.~4 L: w0 f' o- b  N/ R. ]
haha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me4 C' E* W/ n& Y
i'll try to think about it more deeply later on
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good to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:
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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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hahhaa, 不用客氣
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我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了 8 _4 i( j& P4 o, s0 ]9 v
以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀& m0 ?; \2 o4 M

, N' V; Q- D) N$ T9 }' M7 h: @哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:
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( J$ L- c* n5 b: _  }: ?; a- }哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.  A4 j6 d' ]& W/ Q& L
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了.

jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:
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psycho is h ...

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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:" c' G8 d6 h8 l

0 V8 ~, v! g0 Z# [( |哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力." i- R9 I, K- a/ J  a: H5 g' ^

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/ _9 Q2 a- x  l, L& _哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢
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: A) ^% ~8 H6 q3 [同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦+ I, x, `0 r3 v+ F" w. ~* P# k7 D
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你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持
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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:, v' i4 i. t  ~* i$ Q3 O6 f1 x
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2 d0 R7 f/ j8 N1 @haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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: x0 Z' T/ y8 L, k0 U) ^haha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)! s5 A9 l: d+ ^0 E5 f4 j( n, G
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jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la
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+ u% I6 U2 ]+ J- _4 A9 Nwhich faculty u are studying, u seems interest in thinking and doing research on social, psycho and philiosophy!