jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:" Z! l+ \. k- k) h7 A% i
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架# M- I  y% H8 U7 K, M
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
3 m$ [0 _  k$ A( ]. O5 pcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
3 K8 S5 x/ q/ S: y: R7 G% Iwhy this happen? just simple........punishment" R) K) D8 y4 [9 t
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
1 S. {2 h, o2 y& f/ w( qbut why jesus need to do this?
2 [7 B' e# L* J. l. ^" ?  qpunsihment for what???# q, j9 b2 m5 a
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
6 H$ L5 o' i8 f& l  Q9 o6 atry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers. c8 L# w5 C4 w9 m" O2 y
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 7 V/ t$ L' t; c/ @. a
what will u do???
# f' a' \7 {0 f, @just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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3 ~/ p/ K; {: W/ M  f6 |2 ^$ H) @: R. c+ d/ _咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉( k1 O! G. Q2 N4 P9 Z" U  {# \

: c* K! {0 T0 G" u1 a- ~但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
& w; S9 g' P4 p. tbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?; V% O. d, r0 K$ ^  z: g) i: y
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case5 j: K) r$ s: |8 H9 Q; J/ ~# U1 z3 b
why this happen? just simple........punishment
" |- ?# i/ ^/ i& E# Jmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things : b$ S' o% @6 p6 y% {3 B) d
but why jesus need to do this?
1 _, o& t& R9 M5 Z- z2 U& K. hpunsihment for what???
  A9 |5 Z5 t  E8 F: o. X% Bfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus% C9 ^$ O% M7 C7 c
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers+ g( f; ?1 k% v% O* ~
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
5 G! T4 P. T8 N: |9 p$ A; Y' {1 |what will u do???0 N& f) F$ h7 w' M1 Y; o9 S
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days* C4 `( U0 ?7 u& {. o2 G0 a4 o" f0 W
honestly, if there is jesus1 i! _# z- |* B
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
6 u" Y4 F; K9 U3 lwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:3 u' V) b1 e8 @( Q

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$ N) G! {+ ]% N7 E: J好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
1 n! s9 Z# Y0 O! l) sjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
9 A9 B: I5 I  \7 v- `% B; T$ tso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
, N. u" H) C- S8 Tnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:3 H; R( B, u8 W; d5 d0 w
bro singgeihot and rest365days: }3 g$ n: Z# n+ E; d' K& o+ Z
honestly, if there is jesus# y7 l5 ~/ v& N1 W
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
( ?+ N/ J2 g. }( @: Zwe can't blow him :cool:

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: Q& Y3 W% L: cunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics+ D% J0 b. }/ l6 t. u- F) @1 _
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:, N" v9 T7 ?* J3 M) N  `
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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7 S5 R. S: N; A2 `( q3 r( Thaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: