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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:# a; [0 D7 v( P) I4 c
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到# ^5 Z4 n, W% i; {: y2 A: L2 P
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....) X' z! f* ]% Z& A
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....- [4 X. L. l/ K( S; L( f7 G) ]
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
# v2 T$ p1 m  ncheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!# E" G7 S& J2 y& z/ k3 ?
我只不過微小的基督徒...................1 v6 j9 |5 `" W; y: a$ T0 Y4 [2 n
真的!!這不是反話
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We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
6 s# {- a9 ~' ?0 I6 b以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
6 a  `# L1 i! p, i& [在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...9 k) ?7 X0 i' P% w' z3 d
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:) ^; R% ?( k) `7 D0 y* c& c0 ?) K+ @
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?2 _8 ~" [, w- T+ H
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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5 v3 n* y$ p: M$ w" W2 tI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.; S# l0 B& U4 D" q' u+ J* t

, E1 o% }4 ~/ O, U; I8 s8 M: {Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo& v+ r; `& T$ O/ D* l7 }
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:! U, T9 W8 n$ j+ w) K# D+ V
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"
3 G+ s+ c! h: I- N$ I# bYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
2 O7 n' U& u; ]/ C3 Lbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
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We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"0 {& ?$ N6 f- r0 g8 v6 P6 L
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
' {4 ]' B: T$ {. |9 J* s: U/ K; M用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
3 ]( b2 c! U- i; I這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
+ D$ B0 E4 H: l7 B5 I1 i! \如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,9 U+ j# Q0 f; E
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~) z1 m/ z8 s6 D+ E
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
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, k3 k+ }5 g# k. C; P; _6 \一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,# K) R- f) ]9 s" N; G+ ~9 R  R1 G
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,/ M# B. D8 [: {( ]
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,& w* e9 O7 B$ n
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤8 \& c# f: b/ h, n  t. V% t
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm; R# i: g) [: h7 o. j

9 _! I& p. n' Z( _; W1 x[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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: f5 a: q% k$ c. F信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
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Regarding the resurrection....
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# B+ }  G6 F3 ^2 GActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....& w1 @% d7 I! ^  w/ M5 B
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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