jason williams

努力much more important than 天份; _( K- y- p% J; D$ O
天份 only limits at a narrow range of things, such as sport, academic, art........but i think none can have it on all things
/ \/ l+ r% Z6 q) S) I6 J0 @but if u 努力, u can do all the above things, even not perfect, but can do it well or not bad

jason williams

i wanna add a point is that:
$ v$ F. c# L" `9 H4 S6 k: ?* emost rich and have great achievement guys are also hardworking, they have talent, may not all have i think!2 E7 O; l# i8 I1 C* v
but those poor and low soical status guys are also not, they have no talent? i dun think all too!
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moreover, from my experience, some guys always say and think themselves have inborn talent, but this kind of ppl always haven't, or just less, what u have is not from the mouth, but from yr work, if u are not harding to show yr work, how do u know and how do u let others to prove and know u have this inborn talent? say from yrself is useless!!!' `/ R/ d+ o' j5 i
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i wanna give an example from what i have seen in my school:
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are they inborn to read books and study without reaading buy eyes? are they inborn to study without the help of limbs?) t" ~8 t* Q3 H$ \7 \
i dun think so! so what they get great achievement on school work? / M/ l" Q6 b+ w: p
hardworking and good heart!!!

jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:
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! J! [  A9 @# j( j5 l& [/ j# ~8 y0 Mhi, from my opinions, playing online game all the days should not be counting in hardworking to do a thing (just like sleeping or playing all times)1 l* @' C; q3 B2 v
what i think abt hardworking is its work is 艱苦D gei
0 r$ O& r( W- J, e/ j5 Othat means he/she needs to against "give up" thinking and pay a lot of effort and time on it!

jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:48 AM:/ H/ H# `: v( P. N$ Z

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yes, i get yr points, and me2, nice to share view and talk with u!!!2 U! @+ M# g6 Q  c
let's talk some of my experience b4
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he told me that because mine 意識層 is weak, but it can be stengthen# y9 `' i4 e9 z* A5 ~! B7 R. @
what a funny result i can get is :6 \6 O' m* M. P$ M8 l
hardworking can be trained by hardworking, hahhaa^^
8 m% T( |6 b8 E- E. k0 Pfor playing case, none dun like play, because we most like play or sleep as this time is most relax, i always think why i can spend so much time on internet but not on my school work, may be it has no pressure to do it and not so serious and need to "dejest it"7 `  Z# h- V8 P
for more detail should be a psycho question that need professinal to answer
' v  x8 }' q0 T2 vso just like spend a lot of time on lazy, it should not be counted in hardworking even if spend a lot of time on it^^
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: Q7 [  W4 u8 ~. `! H/ Dnice to chat to let me think more ^^

jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:6 W8 C5 ]2 _7 q1 h
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um...
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la
* z2 i" i0 S+ [; m; obesides, crap! interest to ask u
2 I) |8 U3 @6 O5 Owhich faculty u are studying, u seems interest in thinking and doing research on social, psycho and philiosophy!

jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-27 05:15 PM:; y! c* x1 a% d" V3 Q6 F
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hahahaa, i'm not  ...

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haha, i am studying in Physics, and also 9 ng da 8