singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:! c2 N! I/ p" X! O7 M9 F: ^

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9 A) ~/ n4 ~+ e' ?2 EThis is a good po ...

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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".
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" o! r: T: V: K2 M7 m6 h例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%
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就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:  N) P% k: ?' S3 a" c

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yes, i get yr poi ...

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psycho is hard~.~( f9 h7 W2 X7 T2 [
haha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me& U# P+ e  i8 ~4 D' |% g( C0 r0 Y
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good to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:: O1 \  P- V* ~( U# G
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4 ]/ R3 T! y4 h% s, J多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了
: c- `! p, o% @. n' [4 V7 q) K以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀
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singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:
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! ?2 y- F7 f  R& q: Uhahhaa, 不用客氣
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' `( E, Z, m$ q! e! Z3 c哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.0 W$ r/ S# S1 d- w

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jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢0 g/ J( k: J% ~) M2 i

6 h, I6 e7 g" D4 L4 K7 x. j1 l: Y6 n同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦
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" Q* H& y% I4 c9 l' e  V你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持" [' T7 \# Y! ^4 q% a# {6 p5 @
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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:
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9 \; R5 v8 w3 y+ {haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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$ i1 u* Z# b2 u! L  F& qhaha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)
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again, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO ) S3 e" W4 z0 C; i" N! R
Give it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la
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which faculty u are studying, u seems interest in thinking and doing research on social, psycho and philiosophy!