singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:
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This is a good po ...

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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".+ G3 H$ K; x( v( X( I# R) U

5 p8 t) h6 c5 J# z相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".8 _' ^" P3 ]9 b. V
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例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%
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就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:
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6 e, z$ O* m' U. T; U" eyes, i get yr poi ...

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6 q6 y  J! s4 r9 G- Bhaha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me
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$ j: F0 h8 [' s3 ?# \8 b9 X$ Kgood to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:: H3 z. K, E: g- [. [4 g! L, w6 f
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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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+ j' T3 s( ?& K* f/ v) j1 W" ^# ?2 I我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了
+ t; i" P5 U3 N) h1 w2 H5 l以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀% e1 k3 @# d. b
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哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:+ t- J! t; G0 \( J# Q& ]

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8 J6 w2 j# z$ u4 U' Q哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:6 c, O. o' L* |6 Y% c

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psycho is h ...

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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:( j4 c4 Q+ v; P* }  y

! L; F7 l1 U5 D9 F哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.9 m2 r: k0 ?1 b! M8 K6 s

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哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢
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同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦# ], Y4 Z2 q5 n2 L

; Q3 x: y5 Z; o5 h, C你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持
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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:
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5 D- O) X9 I: F0 @+ U8 W- u  Uhaha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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haha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)
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' I( l5 X# e) g! nagain, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO
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jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la- Z- `6 m$ p# g& Q9 b5 j! F
besides, crap! interest to ask u
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