singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:) |- Q, b* E: ^4 m3 E% _" h

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8 q6 j0 R/ m. g$ k/ TThis is a good po ...

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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".
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3 c# ]& r- v* T' [  p( A7 I相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".
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例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%9 G7 d8 m' C' r
會考就係最好的例子.9 a9 H" G( D$ Z' h2 [$ o+ j# T( }9 k% ]( p
就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:+ X! y/ b% W5 M+ I% L& M* q4 d
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7 L2 h4 i' n# }yes, i get yr poi ...

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psycho is hard~.~+ I# ^, f2 v" B. o- k1 _2 q6 m
haha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me" s5 |. k$ Q( Y: G& F$ S
i'll try to think about it more deeply later on
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. f) ?% w% e  a- Sgood to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:
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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了
4 l; F0 X! N8 j- Z1 w# \5 u以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀
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. M# u8 n5 l' }哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:% @$ _* ?- d, I# B
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hahhaa, 不用客氣
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.3 O2 K; N6 c) ]: |

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jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:
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um...
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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/ Z  h# e/ O, e- r" W' X' }3 i; ]哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢5 c0 }: \9 M6 a; k- x, Q# E! t
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同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦
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你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持7 D! \- j) g: }) b; H4 O2 ?! e. A( A

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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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# O9 U7 {$ x' w! `! a# ~haha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)
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again, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO 4 v/ v% B' `* w- ~0 l$ d+ }) p3 i
Give it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la2 j3 s; p# [# L9 \
besides, crap! interest to ask u
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