singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:
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9 A9 R& l+ L! f: }* \  ?% V1 ZThis is a good po ...

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; o9 z3 S' |) u, `) l多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".) X  W0 B0 J4 C

" J# t9 `; w7 O' v# `. v  j相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".
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例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%
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奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:/ v8 N4 e9 z9 [& M' H# u5 j
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yes, i get yr poi ...

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psycho is hard~.~
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crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:
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hahhaa, 不用客氣
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我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了 0 {  U  Y1 U# _8 N* g7 x
以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀# ]4 Y% I2 e- h. W$ j6 {
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哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:8 I" g- r6 @3 |+ J3 e
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hahhaa, 不用客氣( p8 u+ M) g* C& j; o' p

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6 `0 x! [4 W0 j* f哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力." i0 l' h( Z: i6 s0 X
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了.

jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:/ {% M7 }4 _( y

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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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9 z" x' W0 |: K7 M2 f) p哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦* a7 a) d; E3 J2 d+ x6 V9 b
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你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持. i" u. n, ?8 V& z( R4 }; n3 M) ?3 a

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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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, B) y: L  |0 }. Z8 K+ N  f) l5 _haha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)
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' ?; x9 v4 O2 gagain, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO 8 S4 k- l/ f& p/ p+ ]) L" {" i
Give it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la: O. K( ]0 V) I* L
besides, crap! interest to ask u
# Q: U* n$ F+ P4 gwhich faculty u are studying, u seems interest in thinking and doing research on social, psycho and philiosophy!