singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:
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This is a good po ...

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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".
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相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".2 t' a7 {3 X8 L) ^) d9 G5 x

! r; G/ V/ ^' v例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%
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; o5 \+ D# H( K! `/ I& ~就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:
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yes, i get yr poi ...

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psycho is hard~.~5 m* L% r6 _* p& n+ B
haha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me
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9 X/ t4 y# z4 a0 V' e4 O5 n% Q5 [/ O: ogood to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:
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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了
8 B" T0 J; y  f以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀! u3 T6 \4 a2 s' m* @. t: q
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哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:0 V2 K/ \. Y! N  a# P# w3 N, w6 w

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我 ...

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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:% F. X* i0 `" Q1 H" A/ q
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psycho is h ...

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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:- z8 F  c0 U' E
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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; t7 s" B/ R6 x' b: _( L同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦
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你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持; [: \- {: j! f4 L+ D8 F0 G( K
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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:  ~1 c$ k/ P3 M, D  t# P- i. ?

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. S6 D8 f6 R, V; ~# K% Whaha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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" `6 {6 O& l3 X5 r# |9 @6 b: o' Yhaha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)6 v3 e) p% p. i$ q% N! u
pls enjoy
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4 x, M5 d: h2 I# Z. r! W4 [4 Iagain, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO
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jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la
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