Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:7 x- T4 X5 p5 O7 K( h* ]- n; l# M7 ?
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
- A; p7 }( C" q3 i又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
) I9 k' _9 u7 F* w3 R7 [8 }' D2 z9 I道理我知道好多只係做吳到1 K$ E! i5 c2 z# R- S0 l4 w( Q
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!. T* M& g  Q+ P1 Z' N& k# Q

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* c6 n0 L* H5 o7 ]7 f. {mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....- h1 f4 i4 d/ Z; o) _; ^

  _# M3 j$ G8 S# X8 Ystruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves...... Y; |+ c& j* ]' t
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
6 r8 R9 F% ~: C3 ~$ q& O% c) u' l) ?6 q我只不過微小的基督徒...................% ]& V3 l8 ~- b  B; H( F
真的!!這不是反話
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9 `0 _! i4 G( k" {4 k所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,! x8 L, ]0 B! M% ^
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,' J7 J6 @0 K$ E4 o1 ?: r
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
! o2 o5 E  s: m3 n$ R7 H  R" w建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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9 f( _0 `. S! ?1 R: F0 GWhat a statement we have here?
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* J5 G9 L, X4 o9 b( X4 R+ ~Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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- S6 h* n4 T9 z  J, t0 d& @Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:2 O: N: Z" V: U8 t
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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+ Y. ~1 z6 i/ `! k" Q  W: T"不信也沒損失"5 i4 o/ V6 l3 m! \" x$ n
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
) F4 R* a4 \8 K, B9 \" S3 cbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
$ p# ]4 H! X4 B* N; Bsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
7 g, h: ~+ Q. \: Y3 Pour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,: r2 u$ @* r- A0 X
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
& _3 I- s: r# l如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,, P  Z8 U; ~0 }' V
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~- S3 b8 T. l- }$ i7 K# x
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,' b( b4 s) v5 l" v5 a8 X% u
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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- R6 d1 }. ^+ G% W+ P4 R一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,% w' [! a4 Q- S3 p  b
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法" b, W. I3 E. L4 l0 T6 M
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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3 H! y1 s6 }& N吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
% `" z0 s+ |& K' ]/ l信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,  K$ q) ~2 R4 a0 ~* I
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤. W3 A6 ]% z6 e1 t! ~9 y$ O( I
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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2 K" `. h: W9 s4 f6 H信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!3 L6 M3 e5 f" C8 |4 }4 ^

; ^1 n; {! y# ?! {& s不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!9 L+ g5 ]" h% R8 l4 `; y& j

& |$ V  W. X  [( z我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!- q; K0 i1 ?3 x

1 ~2 {% ^  q( S) F同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:$ u8 P# y: u" ]! p" s
.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....0 O2 [" j. [9 Q2 S9 W  X; w

! W( I' G: r( n4 G9 n! yActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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2 I) {1 K; `$ m2 hYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.