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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
6 P# B# u' a" L  {  l* R我係一個連自己都吳信的人
4 `: A- x' t( \! z; B又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢7 S, @1 f; Z1 o0 X  |
道理我知道好多只係做吳到0 M- `, Z6 y0 C* K* T1 T
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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2 y9 K6 k$ V$ ]+ ^0 }Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies...., v. k9 h3 D- P# M1 Z. W4 z
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....4 s' Q1 h& g. s, i4 ]. _
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves....." I7 h* l2 W1 C7 |- f
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!, Z  d! V  C7 f' |% v9 ?
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
8 m2 G9 ~4 V7 e# P+ x真的!!這不是反話
3 b; r' B2 F. X) U" L4 ?' a因為我是情感比理性強的人7 M9 q! O) Q8 z- F) u5 T
所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失," O, E4 C. o  S5 ?% r, {
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,# M/ o  @8 D. x. w
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...! [$ M4 j$ C/ b0 ?( n1 ~: B6 O! m: ~
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:& u- n9 P& T3 o# L: H4 I
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?1 W; N. F* e: v: I& i7 W
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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/ W/ m- H9 _' ~% _: v# A" WI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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- h8 G/ v  G  O  D* k- bLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo& H# ]. z2 W+ {/ G: O1 l
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
/ \+ i3 ~/ u8 _) q( D& E建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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. I2 t: O& D: d/ f) o$ n"不信也沒損失"
5 \" N# m; g3 m' A3 TYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....2 Z: p, D, N3 X4 L- C$ Q
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
& X3 @/ P6 ~8 Jsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
4 |- p# ?( A8 }9 Kour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
, h$ w# b; N' \* V( P只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,  `! z. I5 u9 ~/ X
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,# z9 A! H9 i) k1 q) d" ~+ ~
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
) w8 W+ j5 ~$ X6 c% H6 M0 I' H  T如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,& G4 }1 ~) P7 z
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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2 x' J6 Z  ]. J1 s" T導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
0 K: O+ M) f* I好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,- I) k* C/ V3 P6 {# }" G
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,3 }4 v: G& G/ X9 i7 N- c
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法6 e9 i* x7 J$ L$ @2 D" Q' r3 Q
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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8 H3 `4 d5 G  v4 Y3 A3 H$ }3 H吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,* O; Q- X* _: n- r6 I5 }/ T
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干7 c! v3 g/ @3 G

% B' H% `0 O6 E* ]" Y' ?2 W. |+ |以下是其他人的見解,4 q. A% F: v( W8 h0 m
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤1 {3 L, R" M# S
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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# I* g4 O  S9 i. B% |1 m6 D7 N1 I' D[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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) \3 R4 w4 r& W! v! t0 E% H信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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9 R6 H+ {3 t$ N! ^$ S- R不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!3 e  I: t; `) a5 G& L( Z
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!3 Y8 ^3 ^$ L9 J; P# G6 c9 |8 l

0 _1 A  f9 C0 v6 i同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
4 }: I9 l" J7 W8 O4 }/ G.............信耶穌... ...
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Regarding the resurrection....
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2 Q4 a- b/ P4 v9 t4 ^: A" Z( QActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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6 A, A$ V3 V0 I7 s6 XYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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