Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
/ ^( q5 }7 p. P% y6 E4 Z/ o, ^( R. Q我係一個連自己都吳信的人! M/ D* _8 r  ~( i( K
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
: j4 O2 Z3 W0 U; X5 q道理我知道好多只係做吳到! D. H% v$ K9 [# K! `
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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, ^/ T. B% C+ j4 j2 i8 RNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....- `# @3 I8 J; d# P

5 p  H2 c8 V/ M  Kmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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9 i! @. g0 G, U0 F8 A( Wstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....$ i, a% m$ u9 \5 [; ?
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!7 ^4 Q) L! C5 k  c1 J& L% B
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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" u! N. ~7 x  t0 j因為我是情感比理性強的人5 f' ^) E/ l8 a: R; V; b& I$ r
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,5 A& n! L+ j3 _  T' @- @
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,1 a* d. Y1 O& b$ d
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...& w7 \) ?8 Z5 q, Q& |
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
$ g; {( A( H7 p- M. `建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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7 t6 V! H+ k, O' P0 O) K# n; q* ~Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? # x9 J* g5 g6 R: L5 C) ]. m

5 B% }# f7 ~7 x' ]% _$ c$ x  k/ y4 ~I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.0 z! v* U1 Z- a6 B+ ~0 W/ W

% d+ P" ~' h) u4 H( B- P6 z: _Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo) L9 @  I5 s$ e  b5 b3 y* Y! B

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:$ k7 w- A( w+ `. D
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"" p" `! e: Q- K7 L
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
/ C! e+ L; f8 hbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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" O5 A5 {7 y, tit's starting because we have sins......2 g0 P7 d1 ]" c
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
7 j0 Y# l" m) I% m4 Y9 xour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求", J. p$ w# @0 Q) ^. q; z7 l
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
$ L! R( Z# g* S- y$ n用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
: U0 L" L5 a7 G這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
( D  o6 Z& {7 I" n" z+ `" p如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
5 G; z( }; @, y' n% a5 Y& W而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~( j0 k# P7 j: L* j9 s( P& z$ l
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,: x" }3 M: J: T0 D7 W
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,( E; |2 s, T8 S5 D
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,# _1 {4 X! X0 t2 S  F
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
# c4 u' h: J1 s& e美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具9 Z' e3 Y) f- z1 e. E
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,# Q$ ?4 i3 h1 O, j  d
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干# K$ ~  J( M  s( y
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以下是其他人的見解,3 F& F9 g( ?# l8 V) z
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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7 Z/ d) N; t; T& y) }5 A$ [信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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$ N' L9 ?1 b  ^/ J& ^不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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! P9 g2 y1 H/ B2 R# c1 ^我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:0 ]: ~" N+ s8 n, }: G+ @2 S$ v
.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....
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  ]/ S, a9 p& K: }( iActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....! N  {. h+ ?; w7 i- u
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.